[GTER] RES: RES: Concentrador PPPoE

Urik B. da Silva urik at rootz.com.br
Wed Mar 26 12:17:06 -03 2014


Problema é que a versão 5.24 trava rota BGP.

Urik Barbosa da Silva
http://www.linkedin.com/in/urikbs
Linux User #431806

Em 25-03-2014 07:41, Rosauro Baretta escreveu:
> esqueci de anexar o printscreen.
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Rosauro Baretta
> Tel: 46 3555 8000
> Cel: 46 8401 4560
> RLINE Telecom LTDA
> Conselheiro Abrint
> On 24/03/14 23:00, Rosauro Baretta wrote:
>> Fernando,
>>
>> nós também tivemos estes problemas de subir os tempos e tudo mais, 
>> mas sempre quando tinhamos acima dos 1400 usuários online.
>>
>> em anexo print temos entre 1100 e 1250 usuários em um r210, e tem se 
>> comportado bem, mas até o momento a melhor versao foi a: 5.24. 
>> Tentamos usar a v6 desde as betas, as primeiras versoes nem 
>> funcionavam as interfaces de redes, trocamos alguns e-mails com o 
>> Janis da MK, nas ultimas vezes ele até nos passou uma versao beta da 
>> v 6.11 e tb um beta do pacote pppoe para rodar em multicore, 
>> infelizmente não tivemos bons resultados e preferimos voltar para a 
>> 5.24..
>>
>> Agora vendo este tópico iremos fazer um teste com o freebsd + MPD.
>>
>> Atenciosamente,
>>
>> Rosauro Baretta
>> Tel: 46 3555 8000
>> Cel: 46 8401 4560
>> RLINE Telecom LTDA
>> Conselheiro Abrint
>> On 24/03/14 14:33, Fernando Klabunde wrote:
>>> Alysson.. ótimos resultados..
>>> Aqui depois que passa de uns 1000 clientes o servidor começa a subir os
>>> tempos.. até de rede interna (cliente-servidor).. demora um pouco 
>>> mais pra
>>> logar o PPPoE do cliente..
>>>
>>> Como utiliza a topologia ai?
>>> O cliente fecha o PPPoE com qual MTU?
>>>
>>> Att.
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 24 de março de 2014 14:15, Alysson Jose <alyssonjose at gmail.com> 
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Estou usando uma CCR-1016-12G aqui, e no momento estamos com 1035 
>>>> clientes
>>>> PPPOE e 441 Hotspot, média do processador 45% até que a carga esta
>>>> distribuída entre os 16cores, pelo o que eu vi do Fernando Klabunde 
>>>> o R210
>>>> deve aguentar bem mais que isso a CPU do dele quase não se mexeu. 
>>>> Eu só
>>>> fico com receio do RouterOS :D (Houve uma queda no gráfico que 
>>>> coloquei,
>>>> mas foi um dos links que deu uma queda rápida :P)
>>>>
>>>> http://imgur.com/1D7IoNO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 24/03/2014 13:47, Fernando Klabunde escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>   Bom, segue gráficos para análise e uma SS nesse exato momento.
>>>>> O resultado com o R210 é muito bom, mas só conseguimos um bom 
>>>>> ganho com a
>>>>> V6.9 ou superior.
>>>>> No Max 1000 clientes autenticados.
>>>>> Mas para segurança eu recomendo até 800 clientes e 120/35Mb.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/pPT29Y5.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/HkeoUqZ.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 24 de março de 2014 12:08, Alex Montoanelli <
>>>>> alex.montoanelli at unetvale.net> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Olá Urik.
>>>>>> Sem você tem que ter um servidor radius (freeradius por exemplo) 
>>>>>> a parte,
>>>>>> pra bilhetar e autorizar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> O próprio mpd já vem suporte a radius onboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>>    » Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>>    » +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>>    » INOC 53175*100
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-24 11:36 GMT-03:00 Joester Brondani <
>>>>>> contato at joesterbrondani.com.br>
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Este rapaz é um dos que conheço que usa e funciona muito bem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fernandoklabunde at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Abraçao!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 11:24, Alysson Jose escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Joester, você tem algum R210 com o Mikrotik como servidor PPPOE?
>>>>>>> quantos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> clientes em média? Quantidade de tráfego média do 
>>>>>>>> Download/Upload? e
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> qual a
>>>>>>> porcentagem média da CPU? :D
>>>>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 09:25, Joester Brondani escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Ou mesmo o R210 rodando Mikrotik ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 21/03/2014 14:09, Urik B. da Silva escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Boa tarde Alex,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eu particularmente nunca tinha ouvido falar dessa solução e 
>>>>>>>>>> me parece
>>>>>>>>>> realmente bem interessante.
>>>>>>>>>> No caso de provedor, você precisar usar um servidor Radius. 
>>>>>>>>>> Qual a
>>>>>>>>>> biblioteca do Radius que você utiliza?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Urik Barbosa da Silva
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/urikbs
>>>>>>>>>> Linux User #431806
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 19-03-2014 18:22, Alex Montoanelli escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>   Solução um pouco mais econômica que os MX e com bom 
>>>>>>>>>> desempenho, é o
>>>>>>>>>>> conjunto
>>>>>>>>>>> de um  bom Dell R210 ou R420 com FreeBSD + MPD.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tudo bem tunado e ajustado, temos em torno de 5K em um dos 
>>>>>>>>>>> BRAS e
>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>>> preço
>>>>>>>>>>> na casa de 1/8 do custo dos MX.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>>>>>>>     >> Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>>     >> +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>>>>>>>     >> INOC 53175*100
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-19 17:27 GMT-03:00 Adriano Struck - TPA <
>>>>>>>>>>> adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>    Aqui é na prática mesmo... neste exato momento:
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show subscribers summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by State
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Init: 2
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Active: 10156
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by Client Type
>>>>>>>>>>>>       VLAN: 225
>>>>>>>>>>>>       PPPoE: 9933
>>>>>>>>>>>>       Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis routing-engine
>>>>>>>>>>>> Routing Engine status:
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Temperature                 39 degrees C / 102 
>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>>        CPU temperature             50 degrees C / 122 
>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>>        DRAM                      2048 MB
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Memory utilization          65 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>        CPU utilization:
>>>>>>>>>>>>          User                       6 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>          Background                 0 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>          Kernel                     8 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>          Interrupt                  1 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>          Idle                      85 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Model RE-MX5-T
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Start time 2014-02-17 19:50:57 BRT
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Uptime                         29 days, 21 hours, 29 
>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 45
>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Last reboot reason             Router rebooted after 
>>>>>>>>>>>> a normal
>>>>>>>>>>>> shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>        Load averages:                 1 minute   5 minute 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 15 minute
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.91       2.25 1.73
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis tfeb
>>>>>>>>>>>> TFEB status:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slot 0 information:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      State Online
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Intake temperature                 37 degrees C / 98 
>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Exhaust temperature                54 degrees C / 129 
>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>>      CPU utilization                    10 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Interrupt utilization               0 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Heap utilization                   26 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Buffer utilization                 17 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Total CPU DRAM                   1024 MB
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Start time: 2014-02-17 19:53:14 BRT
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Uptime: 29 days, 21 hours, 27
>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes, 33
>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> monitor interface ae0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interface: ae0, Enabled, Link is Up
>>>>>>>>>>>> Encapsulation: Ethernet, Speed: 3000mbps
>>>>>>>>>>>> Traffic statistics: Current delta
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Input bytes:           277727605010411 (1164489400 bps)
>>>>>>>>>>>>    [2541864784]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Output bytes:           37439855445224 (161129088 bps)
>>>>>>>>>>>>    [353111255]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Input packets:            265225370900 (139637 pps)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2452190]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Output packets:           182586049226 (97140 pps)
>>>>>>>>>>>>    [1722571]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Error statistics:
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Input errors: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Input drops: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Input framing errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Carrier transitions: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Output errors: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>      Output drops: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Acredito que pelo processamento/uso de memória, a caixa vá 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> longe,
>>>>>>> mesmo com mais tráfego... Temos 1.1Gbps de download agora com 10 
>>>>>>> mil
>>>>>>>>>>>> usuários... Pode dobrar, triplicar esse tráfego que não fará
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cócegas,
>>>>>>> sem
>>>>>>>>>>>> contar que o ganho estatístico será maior ainda aumentando os
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> planos.
>>>>>>> Att.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Adriano Struck
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerente de Redes - TPA Telecomunicações
>>>>>>>>>>>> (47) 8406-4438
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> De: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> gter-bounces at eng.registro.br]
>>>>>>> Em
>>>>>>>>>>>> nome de Rubens Marins Schner
>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 19 de março de 2014 07:56
>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes
>>>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [GTER] RES: Concentrador PPPoE
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A informacao sobre o limite de 8000 no MX5 foi baseado nesse
>>>>>>>>>>>> documento:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-
>>>>>>>>>>>> independent/junos/information-products/pathway-pages/
>>>>>>>>>>>> subscriber-access/subscriber-management-scaling-values.xls
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Uma coisa que voce deve levar em conta quando mede o numero de
>>>>>>>>>>>> clientes
>>>>>>>>>>>> por caixa, e qual a banda de cada cliente, uma coisa e colocar
>>>>>>>>>>>> milhares em
>>>>>>>>>>>> planos de 128K e outra e milhares em planos de 10Mbits/s. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Entao
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> tenha
>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>>>> em mente por que com o aumento da velocidade, voce pode 
>>>>>>>>>>>> precisar
>>>>>>>>>>>> colocar
>>>>>>>>>>>> cada vez menos pessoas por caixa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Outra coisa que pode ser feito no Juniper, e que voce pode 
>>>>>>>>>>>> viajar
>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>>>> maionese em termos de controle de banda e firewall por 
>>>>>>>>>>>> conexao.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Voce pode criar regras com hierarquia, voce pode deixar um
>>>>>>>>>>>> protocolo
>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>> rapido, ou mais lento, colocar protocolos com 10% ou 20% da 
>>>>>>>>>>>> banda
>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> plano,
>>>>>>>>>>>> pode criar classes de banda baseado no destino e etc. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Usamos aqui
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>> colocar na coleira um protocolo popular de compartilhamento de
>>>>>>>>>>>> arquivos que
>>>>>>>>>>>> consome muita banda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rubens Marins
>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrador de Sistemas
>>>>>>>>>>>> rubens.marins at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-18 23:05 GMT-03:00 Bruno Cabral 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <bruno at openline.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Por esse preço coloque uma parede de RB1100, funciona 
>>>>>>>>>>>> muitissimo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> bem
>>>>>>> como concentrador para 2000 usuarios cada com direito a load
>>>>>>>>>>>> balance
>>>>>>> automatico
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eu cheguei a atender 1500 usuarios simultaneos numa distro 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minha
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (feita para caber em disquete!) num P3 1.3GHz com 1GB RAM (em
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007-2008).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Com RADIUS e tudo. A ideia era lançar como produto mas veio a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sacanagem que acabou com meu provedor e ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> !3runo Cabral
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcosta.eng.br/cursos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://f2link.f2b.com.br/impressora3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    Aqui saiu isso tb, 16k + 5k a licença para 4000 usuários.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/03/2014 20:50, "Adriano Struck - TPA" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Pagamos 16k dólares nas últimas compras na caixa MX-5, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mas isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sem a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   licença para subscribers.
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