[GTER] RES: RES: Concentrador PPPoE
Fernando Klabunde
fernandoklabunde at gmail.com
Tue Mar 25 10:54:41 -03 2014
Tentei anexar ontem as SS e recebi um retorno de que não é possível enviar
anexos na lista.
Favor postar em algum servidor e enviar o link.
Att.
Em 25 de março de 2014 07:41, Rosauro Baretta <rosauro at rline.com.br>escreveu:
> esqueci de anexar o printscreen.
>
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Rosauro Baretta
> Tel: 46 3555 8000
> Cel: 46 8401 4560
> RLINE Telecom LTDA
> Conselheiro Abrint
> On 24/03/14 23:00, Rosauro Baretta wrote:
>
>> Fernando,
>>
>> nós também tivemos estes problemas de subir os tempos e tudo mais, mas
>> sempre quando tinhamos acima dos 1400 usuários online.
>>
>> em anexo print temos entre 1100 e 1250 usuários em um r210, e tem se
>> comportado bem, mas até o momento a melhor versao foi a: 5.24. Tentamos
>> usar a v6 desde as betas, as primeiras versoes nem funcionavam as
>> interfaces de redes, trocamos alguns e-mails com o Janis da MK, nas ultimas
>> vezes ele até nos passou uma versao beta da v 6.11 e tb um beta do pacote
>> pppoe para rodar em multicore, infelizmente não tivemos bons resultados e
>> preferimos voltar para a 5.24..
>>
>> Agora vendo este tópico iremos fazer um teste com o freebsd + MPD.
>>
>> Atenciosamente,
>>
>> Rosauro Baretta
>> Tel: 46 3555 8000
>> Cel: 46 8401 4560
>> RLINE Telecom LTDA
>> Conselheiro Abrint
>> On 24/03/14 14:33, Fernando Klabunde wrote:
>>
>>> Alysson.. ótimos resultados..
>>> Aqui depois que passa de uns 1000 clientes o servidor começa a subir os
>>> tempos.. até de rede interna (cliente-servidor).. demora um pouco mais
>>> pra
>>> logar o PPPoE do cliente..
>>>
>>> Como utiliza a topologia ai?
>>> O cliente fecha o PPPoE com qual MTU?
>>>
>>> Att.
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 24 de março de 2014 14:15, Alysson Jose <alyssonjose at gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Estou usando uma CCR-1016-12G aqui, e no momento estamos com 1035
>>>> clientes
>>>> PPPOE e 441 Hotspot, média do processador 45% até que a carga esta
>>>> distribuída entre os 16cores, pelo o que eu vi do Fernando Klabunde o
>>>> R210
>>>> deve aguentar bem mais que isso a CPU do dele quase não se mexeu. Eu só
>>>> fico com receio do RouterOS :D (Houve uma queda no gráfico que coloquei,
>>>> mas foi um dos links que deu uma queda rápida :P)
>>>>
>>>> http://imgur.com/1D7IoNO
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 24/03/2014 13:47, Fernando Klabunde escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Bom, segue gráficos para análise e uma SS nesse exato momento.
>>>>
>>>>> O resultado com o R210 é muito bom, mas só conseguimos um bom ganho
>>>>> com a
>>>>> V6.9 ou superior.
>>>>> No Max 1000 clientes autenticados.
>>>>> Mas para segurança eu recomendo até 800 clientes e 120/35Mb.
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/pPT29Y5.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> http://i.imgur.com/HkeoUqZ.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 24 de março de 2014 12:08, Alex Montoanelli <
>>>>> alex.montoanelli at unetvale.net> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Olá Urik.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sem você tem que ter um servidor radius (freeradius por exemplo) a
>>>>>> parte,
>>>>>> pra bilhetar e autorizar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> O próprio mpd já vem suporte a radius onboard.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>> » Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>> » +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>> » INOC 53175*100
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-03-24 11:36 GMT-03:00 Joester Brondani <
>>>>>> contato at joesterbrondani.com.br>
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Este rapaz é um dos que conheço que usa e funciona muito bem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> fernandoklabunde at gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Abraçao!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 11:24, Alysson Jose escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Joester, você tem algum R210 com o Mikrotik como servidor PPPOE?
>>>>>>> quantos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> clientes em média? Quantidade de tráfego média do Download/Upload? e
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> qual a
>>>>>>> porcentagem média da CPU? :D
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 09:25, Joester Brondani escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ou mesmo o R210 rodando Mikrotik ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 21/03/2014 14:09, Urik B. da Silva escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Boa tarde Alex,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eu particularmente nunca tinha ouvido falar dessa solução e me
>>>>>>>>>> parece
>>>>>>>>>> realmente bem interessante.
>>>>>>>>>> No caso de provedor, você precisar usar um servidor Radius. Qual a
>>>>>>>>>> biblioteca do Radius que você utiliza?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Urik Barbosa da Silva
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/urikbs
>>>>>>>>>> Linux User #431806
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 19-03-2014 18:22, Alex Montoanelli escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Solução um pouco mais econômica que os MX e com bom desempenho,
>>>>>>>>>> é o
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> conjunto
>>>>>>>>>>> de um bom Dell R210 ou R420 com FreeBSD + MPD.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tudo bem tunado e ajustado, temos em torno de 5K em um dos BRAS e
>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>>> preço
>>>>>>>>>>> na casa de 1/8 do custo dos MX.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>>>>>>> >> Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>> >> +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>>>>>>> >> INOC 53175*100
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-19 17:27 GMT-03:00 Adriano Struck - TPA <
>>>>>>>>>>> adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aqui é na prática mesmo... neste exato momento:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show subscribers summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by State
>>>>>>>>>>>> Init: 2
>>>>>>>>>>>> Active: 10156
>>>>>>>>>>>> Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by Client Type
>>>>>>>>>>>> VLAN: 225
>>>>>>>>>>>> PPPoE: 9933
>>>>>>>>>>>> Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis routing-engine
>>>>>>>>>>>> Routing Engine status:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Temperature 39 degrees C / 102 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU temperature 50 degrees C / 122 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>> DRAM 2048 MB
>>>>>>>>>>>> Memory utilization 65 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU utilization:
>>>>>>>>>>>> User 6 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Background 0 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Kernel 8 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt 1 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Idle 85 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Model RE-MX5-T
>>>>>>>>>>>> Start time 2014-02-17 19:50:57 BRT
>>>>>>>>>>>> Uptime 29 days, 21 hours, 29
>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 45
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Last reboot reason Router rebooted after a normal
>>>>>>>>>>>> shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Load averages: 1 minute 5 minute 15
>>>>>>>>>>>> minute
>>>>>>>>>>>> 3.91 2.25 1.73
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis tfeb
>>>>>>>>>>>> TFEB status:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Slot 0 information:
>>>>>>>>>>>> State Online
>>>>>>>>>>>> Intake temperature 37 degrees C / 98
>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>> Exhaust temperature 54 degrees C / 129
>>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>> CPU utilization 10 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt utilization 0 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Heap utilization 26 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Buffer utilization 17 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>> Total CPU DRAM 1024 MB
>>>>>>>>>>>> Start time: 2014-02-17 19:53:14 BRT
>>>>>>>>>>>> Uptime: 29 days, 21 hours, 27
>>>>>>>>>>>> minutes, 33
>>>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> monitor interface ae0
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Interface: ae0, Enabled, Link is Up
>>>>>>>>>>>> Encapsulation: Ethernet, Speed: 3000mbps
>>>>>>>>>>>> Traffic statistics: Current delta
>>>>>>>>>>>> Input bytes: 277727605010411 (1164489400 bps)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2541864784]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Output bytes: 37439855445224 (161129088 bps)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [353111255]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Input packets: 265225370900 (139637 pps)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2452190]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Output packets: 182586049226 (97140 pps)
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1722571]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Error statistics:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Input errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Input drops: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Input framing errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Carrier transitions: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Output errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>> Output drops: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Acredito que pelo processamento/uso de memória, a caixa vá mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> longe,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mesmo com mais tráfego... Temos 1.1Gbps de download agora com 10
>>>>>>> mil
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> usuários... Pode dobrar, triplicar esse tráfego que não fará
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> cócegas,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> sem
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> contar que o ganho estatístico será maior ainda aumentando os
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> planos.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Att.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adriano Struck
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gerente de Redes - TPA Telecomunicações
>>>>>>>>>>>> (47) 8406-4438
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> De: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> gter-bounces at eng.registro.br]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nome de Rubens Marins Schner
>>>>>>>>>>>> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 19 de março de 2014 07:56
>>>>>>>>>>>> Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes
>>>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [GTER] RES: Concentrador PPPoE
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A informacao sobre o limite de 8000 no MX5 foi baseado nesse
>>>>>>>>>>>> documento:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-
>>>>>>>>>>>> independent/junos/information-products/pathway-pages/
>>>>>>>>>>>> subscriber-access/subscriber-management-scaling-values.xls
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Uma coisa que voce deve levar em conta quando mede o numero de
>>>>>>>>>>>> clientes
>>>>>>>>>>>> por caixa, e qual a banda de cada cliente, uma coisa e colocar
>>>>>>>>>>>> milhares em
>>>>>>>>>>>> planos de 128K e outra e milhares em planos de 10Mbits/s. Entao
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> tenha
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> em mente por que com o aumento da velocidade, voce pode precisar
>>>>>>>>>>>> colocar
>>>>>>>>>>>> cada vez menos pessoas por caixa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Outra coisa que pode ser feito no Juniper, e que voce pode
>>>>>>>>>>>> viajar
>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>>>> maionese em termos de controle de banda e firewall por conexao.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Voce pode criar regras com hierarquia, voce pode deixar um
>>>>>>>>>>>> protocolo
>>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>>> rapido, ou mais lento, colocar protocolos com 10% ou 20% da
>>>>>>>>>>>> banda
>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>> plano,
>>>>>>>>>>>> pode criar classes de banda baseado no destino e etc. Usamos
>>>>>>>>>>>> aqui
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> colocar na coleira um protocolo popular de compartilhamento de
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> arquivos que
>>>>>>>>>>>> consome muita banda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rubens Marins
>>>>>>>>>>>> Administrador de Sistemas
>>>>>>>>>>>> rubens.marins at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-18 23:05 GMT-03:00 Bruno Cabral <bruno at openline.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Por esse preço coloque uma parede de RB1100, funciona
>>>>>>>>>>>> muitissimo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> bem
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> como concentrador para 2000 usuarios cada com direito a load
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> balance
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> automatico
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eu cheguei a atender 1500 usuarios simultaneos numa distro linux
>>>>>>>>>>>>> minha
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (feita para caber em disquete!) num P3 1.3GHz com 1GB RAM (em
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007-2008).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Com RADIUS e tudo. A ideia era lançar como produto mas veio a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sacanagem que acabou com meu provedor e ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> !3runo Cabral
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcosta.eng.br/cursos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://f2link.f2b.com.br/impressora3d
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aqui saiu isso tb, 16k + 5k a licença para 4000 usuários.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/03/2014 20:50, "Adriano Struck - TPA" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pagamos 16k dólares nas últimas compras na caixa MX-5, mas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sem a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> licença para subscribers.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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