[GTER] RES: RES: Concentrador PPPoE
Alysson Jose
alyssonjose at gmail.com
Tue Mar 25 09:53:55 -03 2014
Bom dia Fernando Klabunde
A nossa topologia aqui é simples, os pops estão em bridge e cada pop é
separado por uma vlan, o mtu que utilizo no pppoe é 1480
Em 24/03/2014 14:33, Fernando Klabunde escreveu:
> Alysson.. ótimos resultados..
> Aqui depois que passa de uns 1000 clientes o servidor começa a subir os
> tempos.. até de rede interna (cliente-servidor).. demora um pouco mais pra
> logar o PPPoE do cliente..
>
> Como utiliza a topologia ai?
> O cliente fecha o PPPoE com qual MTU?
>
> Att.
>
>
> Em 24 de março de 2014 14:15, Alysson Jose <alyssonjose at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Estou usando uma CCR-1016-12G aqui, e no momento estamos com 1035 clientes
>> PPPOE e 441 Hotspot, média do processador 45% até que a carga esta
>> distribuída entre os 16cores, pelo o que eu vi do Fernando Klabunde o R210
>> deve aguentar bem mais que isso a CPU do dele quase não se mexeu. Eu só
>> fico com receio do RouterOS :D (Houve uma queda no gráfico que coloquei,
>> mas foi um dos links que deu uma queda rápida :P)
>>
>> http://imgur.com/1D7IoNO
>>
>>
>> Em 24/03/2014 13:47, Fernando Klabunde escreveu:
>>
>> Bom, segue gráficos para análise e uma SS nesse exato momento.
>>> O resultado com o R210 é muito bom, mas só conseguimos um bom ganho com a
>>> V6.9 ou superior.
>>> No Max 1000 clientes autenticados.
>>> Mas para segurança eu recomendo até 800 clientes e 120/35Mb.
>>>
>>> http://i.imgur.com/pPT29Y5.jpg
>>>
>>> http://i.imgur.com/HkeoUqZ.jpg
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 24 de março de 2014 12:08, Alex Montoanelli <
>>> alex.montoanelli at unetvale.net> escreveu:
>>>
>>> Olá Urik.
>>>> Sem você tem que ter um servidor radius (freeradius por exemplo) a parte,
>>>> pra bilhetar e autorizar.
>>>>
>>>> O próprio mpd já vem suporte a radius onboard.
>>>>
>>>> Abraço
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>> » Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>> » +55 48 3263 8789
>>>> » INOC 53175*100
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-03-24 11:36 GMT-03:00 Joester Brondani <
>>>> contato at joesterbrondani.com.br>
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>> Este rapaz é um dos que conheço que usa e funciona muito bem.
>>>>>
>>>>> fernandoklabunde at gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Abraçao!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 11:24, Alysson Jose escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Joester, você tem algum R210 com o Mikrotik como servidor PPPOE?
>>>>> quantos
>>>>>
>>>>>> clientes em média? Quantidade de tráfego média do Download/Upload? e
>>>>>>
>>>>> qual a
>>>>> porcentagem média da CPU? :D
>>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 09:25, Joester Brondani escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ou mesmo o R210 rodando Mikrotik ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 21/03/2014 14:09, Urik B. da Silva escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Boa tarde Alex,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eu particularmente nunca tinha ouvido falar dessa solução e me parece
>>>>>>>> realmente bem interessante.
>>>>>>>> No caso de provedor, você precisar usar um servidor Radius. Qual a
>>>>>>>> biblioteca do Radius que você utiliza?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Urik Barbosa da Silva
>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/urikbs
>>>>>>>> Linux User #431806
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 19-03-2014 18:22, Alex Montoanelli escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Solução um pouco mais econômica que os MX e com bom desempenho, é o
>>>>>>>>> conjunto
>>>>>>>>> de um bom Dell R210 ou R420 com FreeBSD + MPD.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tudo bem tunado e ajustado, temos em torno de 5K em um dos BRAS e
>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>> preço
>>>>>>>>> na casa de 1/8 do custo dos MX.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>>>>> >> Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>>>>> >> +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>>>>> >> INOC 53175*100
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-19 17:27 GMT-03:00 Adriano Struck - TPA <
>>>>>>>>> adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>> Aqui é na prática mesmo... neste exato momento:
>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show subscribers summary
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by State
>>>>>>>>>> Init: 2
>>>>>>>>>> Active: 10156
>>>>>>>>>> Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by Client Type
>>>>>>>>>> VLAN: 225
>>>>>>>>>> PPPoE: 9933
>>>>>>>>>> Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis routing-engine
>>>>>>>>>> Routing Engine status:
>>>>>>>>>> Temperature 39 degrees C / 102 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>> CPU temperature 50 degrees C / 122 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>> DRAM 2048 MB
>>>>>>>>>> Memory utilization 65 percent
>>>>>>>>>> CPU utilization:
>>>>>>>>>> User 6 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Background 0 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Kernel 8 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt 1 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Idle 85 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Model RE-MX5-T
>>>>>>>>>> Start time 2014-02-17 19:50:57 BRT
>>>>>>>>>> Uptime 29 days, 21 hours, 29 minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 45
>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>> Last reboot reason Router rebooted after a normal
>>>>>>>>>> shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>> Load averages: 1 minute 5 minute 15 minute
>>>>>>>>>> 3.91 2.25 1.73
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis tfeb
>>>>>>>>>> TFEB status:
>>>>>>>>>> Slot 0 information:
>>>>>>>>>> State Online
>>>>>>>>>> Intake temperature 37 degrees C / 98 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>> Exhaust temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>> CPU utilization 10 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Interrupt utilization 0 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Heap utilization 26 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Buffer utilization 17 percent
>>>>>>>>>> Total CPU DRAM 1024 MB
>>>>>>>>>> Start time: 2014-02-17 19:53:14 BRT
>>>>>>>>>> Uptime: 29 days, 21 hours, 27
>>>>>>>>>> minutes, 33
>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> monitor interface ae0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Interface: ae0, Enabled, Link is Up
>>>>>>>>>> Encapsulation: Ethernet, Speed: 3000mbps
>>>>>>>>>> Traffic statistics: Current delta
>>>>>>>>>> Input bytes: 277727605010411 (1164489400 bps)
>>>>>>>>>> [2541864784]
>>>>>>>>>> Output bytes: 37439855445224 (161129088 bps)
>>>>>>>>>> [353111255]
>>>>>>>>>> Input packets: 265225370900 (139637 pps)
>>>>>>>>>> [2452190]
>>>>>>>>>> Output packets: 182586049226 (97140 pps)
>>>>>>>>>> [1722571]
>>>>>>>>>> Error statistics:
>>>>>>>>>> Input errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>> Input drops: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>> Input framing errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>> Carrier transitions: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>> Output errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>> Output drops: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Acredito que pelo processamento/uso de memória, a caixa vá mais
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> longe,
>>>>> mesmo com mais tráfego... Temos 1.1Gbps de download agora com 10 mil
>>>>>>>>>> usuários... Pode dobrar, triplicar esse tráfego que não fará
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> cócegas,
>>>>> sem
>>>>>>>>>> contar que o ganho estatístico será maior ainda aumentando os
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> planos.
>>>>> Att.
>>>>>>>>>> Adriano Struck
>>>>>>>>>> Gerente de Redes - TPA Telecomunicações
>>>>>>>>>> (47) 8406-4438
>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>> De: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> gter-bounces at eng.registro.br]
>>>>> Em
>>>>>>>>>> nome de Rubens Marins Schner
>>>>>>>>>> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 19 de março de 2014 07:56
>>>>>>>>>> Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes
>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [GTER] RES: Concentrador PPPoE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A informacao sobre o limite de 8000 no MX5 foi baseado nesse
>>>>>>>>>> documento:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-
>>>>>>>>>> independent/junos/information-products/pathway-pages/
>>>>>>>>>> subscriber-access/subscriber-management-scaling-values.xls
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Uma coisa que voce deve levar em conta quando mede o numero de
>>>>>>>>>> clientes
>>>>>>>>>> por caixa, e qual a banda de cada cliente, uma coisa e colocar
>>>>>>>>>> milhares em
>>>>>>>>>> planos de 128K e outra e milhares em planos de 10Mbits/s. Entao
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tenha
>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>> em mente por que com o aumento da velocidade, voce pode precisar
>>>>>>>>>> colocar
>>>>>>>>>> cada vez menos pessoas por caixa.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Outra coisa que pode ser feito no Juniper, e que voce pode viajar
>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>> maionese em termos de controle de banda e firewall por conexao.
>>>>>>>>>> Voce pode criar regras com hierarquia, voce pode deixar um
>>>>>>>>>> protocolo
>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>> rapido, ou mais lento, colocar protocolos com 10% ou 20% da banda
>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>> plano,
>>>>>>>>>> pode criar classes de banda baseado no destino e etc. Usamos aqui
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>> colocar na coleira um protocolo popular de compartilhamento de
>>>>>>>>>> arquivos que
>>>>>>>>>> consome muita banda.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rubens Marins
>>>>>>>>>> Administrador de Sistemas
>>>>>>>>>> rubens.marins at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-18 23:05 GMT-03:00 Bruno Cabral <bruno at openline.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Por esse preço coloque uma parede de RB1100, funciona muitissimo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bem
>>>>> como concentrador para 2000 usuarios cada com direito a load
>>>>>>>>>> balance
>>>>> automatico
>>>>>>>>>>> Eu cheguei a atender 1500 usuarios simultaneos numa distro linux
>>>>>>>>>>> minha
>>>>>>>>>>> (feita para caber em disquete!) num P3 1.3GHz com 1GB RAM (em
>>>>>>>>>>> 2007-2008).
>>>>>>>>>>> Com RADIUS e tudo. A ideia era lançar como produto mas veio a
>>>>>>>>>>> sacanagem que acabou com meu provedor e ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> !3runo Cabral
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcosta.eng.br/cursos
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>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Aqui saiu isso tb, 16k + 5k a licença para 4000 usuários.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/03/2014 20:50, "Adriano Struck - TPA" <adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>> Pagamos 16k dólares nas últimas compras na caixa MX-5, mas isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sem a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> licença para subscribers.
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