[GTER] RES: RES: Concentrador PPPoE

Rosauro Baretta rosauro at rline.com.br
Tue Mar 25 07:41:19 -03 2014


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Atenciosamente,

Rosauro Baretta
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On 24/03/14 23:00, Rosauro Baretta wrote:
> Fernando,
>
> nós também tivemos estes problemas de subir os tempos e tudo mais, mas 
> sempre quando tinhamos acima dos 1400 usuários online.
>
> em anexo print temos entre 1100 e 1250 usuários em um r210, e tem se 
> comportado bem, mas até o momento a melhor versao foi a: 5.24. 
> Tentamos usar a v6 desde as betas, as primeiras versoes nem 
> funcionavam as interfaces de redes, trocamos alguns e-mails com o 
> Janis da MK, nas ultimas vezes ele até nos passou uma versao beta da v 
> 6.11 e tb um beta do pacote pppoe para rodar em multicore, 
> infelizmente não tivemos bons resultados e preferimos voltar para a 
> 5.24..
>
> Agora vendo este tópico iremos fazer um teste com o freebsd + MPD.
>
> Atenciosamente,
>
> Rosauro Baretta
> Tel: 46 3555 8000
> Cel: 46 8401 4560
> RLINE Telecom LTDA
> Conselheiro Abrint
> On 24/03/14 14:33, Fernando Klabunde wrote:
>> Alysson.. ótimos resultados..
>> Aqui depois que passa de uns 1000 clientes o servidor começa a subir os
>> tempos.. até de rede interna (cliente-servidor).. demora um pouco 
>> mais pra
>> logar o PPPoE do cliente..
>>
>> Como utiliza a topologia ai?
>> O cliente fecha o PPPoE com qual MTU?
>>
>> Att.
>>
>>
>> Em 24 de março de 2014 14:15, Alysson Jose <alyssonjose at gmail.com> 
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Estou usando uma CCR-1016-12G aqui, e no momento estamos com 1035 
>>> clientes
>>> PPPOE e 441 Hotspot, média do processador 45% até que a carga esta
>>> distribuída entre os 16cores, pelo o que eu vi do Fernando Klabunde 
>>> o R210
>>> deve aguentar bem mais que isso a CPU do dele quase não se mexeu. Eu só
>>> fico com receio do RouterOS :D (Houve uma queda no gráfico que 
>>> coloquei,
>>> mas foi um dos links que deu uma queda rápida :P)
>>>
>>> http://imgur.com/1D7IoNO
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 24/03/2014 13:47, Fernando Klabunde escreveu:
>>>
>>>   Bom, segue gráficos para análise e uma SS nesse exato momento.
>>>> O resultado com o R210 é muito bom, mas só conseguimos um bom ganho 
>>>> com a
>>>> V6.9 ou superior.
>>>> No Max 1000 clientes autenticados.
>>>> Mas para segurança eu recomendo até 800 clientes e 120/35Mb.
>>>>
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/pPT29Y5.jpg
>>>>
>>>> http://i.imgur.com/HkeoUqZ.jpg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 24 de março de 2014 12:08, Alex Montoanelli <
>>>> alex.montoanelli at unetvale.net> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>   Olá Urik.
>>>>> Sem você tem que ter um servidor radius (freeradius por exemplo) a 
>>>>> parte,
>>>>> pra bilhetar e autorizar.
>>>>>
>>>>> O próprio mpd já vem suporte a radius onboard.
>>>>>
>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>    » Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>    » +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>    » INOC 53175*100
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2014-03-24 11:36 GMT-03:00 Joester Brondani <
>>>>> contato at joesterbrondani.com.br>
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>   Este rapaz é um dos que conheço que usa e funciona muito bem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fernandoklabunde at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abraçao!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 11:24, Alysson Jose escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    Joester, você tem algum R210 com o Mikrotik como servidor PPPOE?
>>>>>> quantos
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> clientes em média? Quantidade de tráfego média do 
>>>>>>> Download/Upload? e
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> qual a
>>>>>> porcentagem média da CPU? :D
>>>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 09:25, Joester Brondani escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Ou mesmo o R210 rodando Mikrotik ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 21/03/2014 14:09, Urik B. da Silva escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Boa tarde Alex,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Eu particularmente nunca tinha ouvido falar dessa solução e me 
>>>>>>>>> parece
>>>>>>>>> realmente bem interessante.
>>>>>>>>> No caso de provedor, você precisar usar um servidor Radius. 
>>>>>>>>> Qual a
>>>>>>>>> biblioteca do Radius que você utiliza?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Urik Barbosa da Silva
>>>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/urikbs
>>>>>>>>> Linux User #431806
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 19-03-2014 18:22, Alex Montoanelli escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Solução um pouco mais econômica que os MX e com bom 
>>>>>>>>> desempenho, é o
>>>>>>>>>> conjunto
>>>>>>>>>> de um  bom Dell R210 ou R420 com FreeBSD + MPD.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tudo bem tunado e ajustado, temos em torno de 5K em um dos 
>>>>>>>>>> BRAS e
>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>>>> preço
>>>>>>>>>> na casa de 1/8 do custo dos MX.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>>>>>>     >> Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>     >> +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>>>>>>     >> INOC 53175*100
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-19 17:27 GMT-03:00 Adriano Struck - TPA <
>>>>>>>>>> adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>    Aqui é na prática mesmo... neste exato momento:
>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show subscribers summary
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by State
>>>>>>>>>>>       Init: 2
>>>>>>>>>>>       Active: 10156
>>>>>>>>>>>       Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by Client Type
>>>>>>>>>>>       VLAN: 225
>>>>>>>>>>>       PPPoE: 9933
>>>>>>>>>>>       Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis routing-engine
>>>>>>>>>>> Routing Engine status:
>>>>>>>>>>>        Temperature                 39 degrees C / 102 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>        CPU temperature             50 degrees C / 122 degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>        DRAM                      2048 MB
>>>>>>>>>>>        Memory utilization          65 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>        CPU utilization:
>>>>>>>>>>>          User                       6 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>          Background                 0 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>          Kernel                     8 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>          Interrupt                  1 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>          Idle                      85 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>        Model                          RE-MX5-T
>>>>>>>>>>>        Start time 2014-02-17 19:50:57 BRT
>>>>>>>>>>>        Uptime                         29 days, 21 hours, 29 
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 45
>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>        Last reboot reason             Router rebooted after 
>>>>>>>>>>> a normal
>>>>>>>>>>> shutdown.
>>>>>>>>>>>        Load averages:                 1 minute   5 minute 15 
>>>>>>>>>>> minute
>>>>>>>>>>> 3.91       2.25 1.73
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis tfeb
>>>>>>>>>>> TFEB status:
>>>>>>>>>>> Slot 0 information:
>>>>>>>>>>>      State Online
>>>>>>>>>>>      Intake temperature                 37 degrees C / 98 
>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>      Exhaust temperature                54 degrees C / 129 
>>>>>>>>>>> degrees F
>>>>>>>>>>>      CPU utilization                    10 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>      Interrupt utilization               0 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>      Heap utilization                   26 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>      Buffer utilization                 17 percent
>>>>>>>>>>>      Total CPU DRAM                   1024 MB
>>>>>>>>>>>      Start time: 2014-02-17 19:53:14 BRT
>>>>>>>>>>>      Uptime:                               29 days, 21 
>>>>>>>>>>> hours, 27
>>>>>>>>>>> minutes, 33
>>>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> monitor interface ae0
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Interface: ae0, Enabled, Link is Up
>>>>>>>>>>> Encapsulation: Ethernet, Speed: 3000mbps
>>>>>>>>>>> Traffic statistics: Current delta
>>>>>>>>>>>      Input bytes:           277727605010411 (1164489400 bps)
>>>>>>>>>>>    [2541864784]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Output bytes:           37439855445224 (161129088 bps)
>>>>>>>>>>>    [353111255]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Input packets:            265225370900 (139637 pps)
>>>>>>>>>>> [2452190]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Output packets:           182586049226 (97140 pps)
>>>>>>>>>>>    [1722571]
>>>>>>>>>>> Error statistics:
>>>>>>>>>>>      Input errors: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Input drops: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Input framing errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Carrier transitions: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Output errors: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>      Output drops: 0                                [0]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Acredito que pelo processamento/uso de memória, a caixa vá mais
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> longe,
>>>>>> mesmo com mais tráfego... Temos 1.1Gbps de download agora com 10 mil
>>>>>>>>>>> usuários... Pode dobrar, triplicar esse tráfego que não fará
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> cócegas,
>>>>>> sem
>>>>>>>>>>> contar que o ganho estatístico será maior ainda aumentando os
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> planos.
>>>>>> Att.
>>>>>>>>>>> Adriano Struck
>>>>>>>>>>> Gerente de Redes - TPA Telecomunicações
>>>>>>>>>>> (47) 8406-4438
>>>>>>>>>>> e-mail: adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>>> De: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> gter-bounces at eng.registro.br]
>>>>>> Em
>>>>>>>>>>> nome de Rubens Marins Schner
>>>>>>>>>>> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 19 de março de 2014 07:56
>>>>>>>>>>> Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes
>>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [GTER] RES: Concentrador PPPoE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A informacao sobre o limite de 8000 no MX5 foi baseado nesse
>>>>>>>>>>> documento:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-
>>>>>>>>>>> independent/junos/information-products/pathway-pages/
>>>>>>>>>>> subscriber-access/subscriber-management-scaling-values.xls
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Uma coisa que voce deve levar em conta quando mede o numero de
>>>>>>>>>>> clientes
>>>>>>>>>>> por caixa, e qual a banda de cada cliente, uma coisa e colocar
>>>>>>>>>>> milhares em
>>>>>>>>>>> planos de 128K e outra e milhares em planos de 10Mbits/s. Entao
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> tenha
>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>>>> em mente por que com o aumento da velocidade, voce pode 
>>>>>>>>>>> precisar
>>>>>>>>>>> colocar
>>>>>>>>>>> cada vez menos pessoas por caixa.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Outra coisa que pode ser feito no Juniper, e que voce pode 
>>>>>>>>>>> viajar
>>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>>> maionese em termos de controle de banda e firewall por conexao.
>>>>>>>>>>> Voce pode criar regras com hierarquia, voce pode deixar um
>>>>>>>>>>> protocolo
>>>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>>>> rapido, ou mais lento, colocar protocolos com 10% ou 20% da 
>>>>>>>>>>> banda
>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>> plano,
>>>>>>>>>>> pode criar classes de banda baseado no destino e etc. Usamos 
>>>>>>>>>>> aqui
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>> colocar na coleira um protocolo popular de compartilhamento de
>>>>>>>>>>> arquivos que
>>>>>>>>>>> consome muita banda.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Rubens Marins
>>>>>>>>>>> Administrador de Sistemas
>>>>>>>>>>> rubens.marins at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-18 23:05 GMT-03:00 Bruno Cabral 
>>>>>>>>>>> <bruno at openline.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    Por esse preço coloque uma parede de RB1100, funciona 
>>>>>>>>>>> muitissimo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bem
>>>>>> como concentrador para 2000 usuarios cada com direito a load
>>>>>>>>>>> balance
>>>>>> automatico
>>>>>>>>>>>> Eu cheguei a atender 1500 usuarios simultaneos numa distro 
>>>>>>>>>>>> linux
>>>>>>>>>>>> minha
>>>>>>>>>>>> (feita para caber em disquete!) num P3 1.3GHz com 1GB RAM (em
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2007-2008).
>>>>>>>>>>>> Com RADIUS e tudo. A ideia era lançar como produto mas veio a
>>>>>>>>>>>> sacanagem que acabou com meu provedor e ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> !3runo Cabral
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>    Aqui saiu isso tb, 16k + 5k a licença para 4000 usuários.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/03/2014 20:50, "Adriano Struck - TPA" 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Pagamos 16k dólares nas últimas compras na caixa MX-5, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> mas isso
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sem a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   licença para subscribers.
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