[GTER] RES: RES: Concentrador PPPoE
Fernando Klabunde
fernandoklabunde at gmail.com
Mon Mar 24 14:33:19 -03 2014
Alysson.. ótimos resultados..
Aqui depois que passa de uns 1000 clientes o servidor começa a subir os
tempos.. até de rede interna (cliente-servidor).. demora um pouco mais pra
logar o PPPoE do cliente..
Como utiliza a topologia ai?
O cliente fecha o PPPoE com qual MTU?
Att.
Em 24 de março de 2014 14:15, Alysson Jose <alyssonjose at gmail.com> escreveu:
> Estou usando uma CCR-1016-12G aqui, e no momento estamos com 1035 clientes
> PPPOE e 441 Hotspot, média do processador 45% até que a carga esta
> distribuída entre os 16cores, pelo o que eu vi do Fernando Klabunde o R210
> deve aguentar bem mais que isso a CPU do dele quase não se mexeu. Eu só
> fico com receio do RouterOS :D (Houve uma queda no gráfico que coloquei,
> mas foi um dos links que deu uma queda rápida :P)
>
> http://imgur.com/1D7IoNO
>
>
> Em 24/03/2014 13:47, Fernando Klabunde escreveu:
>
> Bom, segue gráficos para análise e uma SS nesse exato momento.
>> O resultado com o R210 é muito bom, mas só conseguimos um bom ganho com a
>> V6.9 ou superior.
>> No Max 1000 clientes autenticados.
>> Mas para segurança eu recomendo até 800 clientes e 120/35Mb.
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/pPT29Y5.jpg
>>
>> http://i.imgur.com/HkeoUqZ.jpg
>>
>>
>> Em 24 de março de 2014 12:08, Alex Montoanelli <
>> alex.montoanelli at unetvale.net> escreveu:
>>
>> Olá Urik.
>>>
>>> Sem você tem que ter um servidor radius (freeradius por exemplo) a parte,
>>> pra bilhetar e autorizar.
>>>
>>> O próprio mpd já vem suporte a radius onboard.
>>>
>>> Abraço
>>>
>>> --
>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>> » Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>> » +55 48 3263 8789
>>> » INOC 53175*100
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-24 11:36 GMT-03:00 Joester Brondani <
>>> contato at joesterbrondani.com.br>
>>> :
>>>
>>> Este rapaz é um dos que conheço que usa e funciona muito bem.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> fernandoklabunde at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Abraçao!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 24/03/2014 11:24, Alysson Jose escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Joester, você tem algum R210 com o Mikrotik como servidor PPPOE?
>>>> quantos
>>>>
>>>>> clientes em média? Quantidade de tráfego média do Download/Upload? e
>>>>>
>>>> qual a
>>>
>>>> porcentagem média da CPU? :D
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 24/03/2014 09:25, Joester Brondani escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Ou mesmo o R210 rodando Mikrotik ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 21/03/2014 14:09, Urik B. da Silva escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Boa tarde Alex,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eu particularmente nunca tinha ouvido falar dessa solução e me parece
>>>>>>> realmente bem interessante.
>>>>>>> No caso de provedor, você precisar usar um servidor Radius. Qual a
>>>>>>> biblioteca do Radius que você utiliza?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Urik Barbosa da Silva
>>>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/urikbs
>>>>>>> Linux User #431806
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 19-03-2014 18:22, Alex Montoanelli escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Solução um pouco mais econômica que os MX e com bom desempenho, é o
>>>>>>>> conjunto
>>>>>>>> de um bom Dell R210 ou R420 com FreeBSD + MPD.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tudo bem tunado e ajustado, temos em torno de 5K em um dos BRAS e
>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>> um
>>>>>>>> preço
>>>>>>>> na casa de 1/8 do custo dos MX.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Abraço
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> *Alex Montoanelli*
>>>>>>>> >> Unetvale <http://www.unetvale.com.br>
>>>>>>>> >> +55 48 3263 8789
>>>>>>>> >> INOC 53175*100
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2014-03-19 17:27 GMT-03:00 Adriano Struck - TPA <
>>>>>>>> adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>> Aqui é na prática mesmo... neste exato momento:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show subscribers summary
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by State
>>>>>>>>> Init: 2
>>>>>>>>> Active: 10156
>>>>>>>>> Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Subscribers by Client Type
>>>>>>>>> VLAN: 225
>>>>>>>>> PPPoE: 9933
>>>>>>>>> Total: 10158
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis routing-engine
>>>>>>>>> Routing Engine status:
>>>>>>>>> Temperature 39 degrees C / 102 degrees F
>>>>>>>>> CPU temperature 50 degrees C / 122 degrees F
>>>>>>>>> DRAM 2048 MB
>>>>>>>>> Memory utilization 65 percent
>>>>>>>>> CPU utilization:
>>>>>>>>> User 6 percent
>>>>>>>>> Background 0 percent
>>>>>>>>> Kernel 8 percent
>>>>>>>>> Interrupt 1 percent
>>>>>>>>> Idle 85 percent
>>>>>>>>> Model RE-MX5-T
>>>>>>>>> Start time 2014-02-17 19:50:57 BRT
>>>>>>>>> Uptime 29 days, 21 hours, 29 minutes,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 45
>>>
>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>> Last reboot reason Router rebooted after a normal
>>>>>>>>> shutdown.
>>>>>>>>> Load averages: 1 minute 5 minute 15 minute
>>>>>>>>> 3.91 2.25 1.73
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> show chassis tfeb
>>>>>>>>> TFEB status:
>>>>>>>>> Slot 0 information:
>>>>>>>>> State Online
>>>>>>>>> Intake temperature 37 degrees C / 98 degrees F
>>>>>>>>> Exhaust temperature 54 degrees C / 129 degrees F
>>>>>>>>> CPU utilization 10 percent
>>>>>>>>> Interrupt utilization 0 percent
>>>>>>>>> Heap utilization 26 percent
>>>>>>>>> Buffer utilization 17 percent
>>>>>>>>> Total CPU DRAM 1024 MB
>>>>>>>>> Start time: 2014-02-17 19:53:14 BRT
>>>>>>>>> Uptime: 29 days, 21 hours, 27
>>>>>>>>> minutes, 33
>>>>>>>>> seconds
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JMX5-BRAS01> monitor interface ae0
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interface: ae0, Enabled, Link is Up
>>>>>>>>> Encapsulation: Ethernet, Speed: 3000mbps
>>>>>>>>> Traffic statistics: Current delta
>>>>>>>>> Input bytes: 277727605010411 (1164489400 bps)
>>>>>>>>> [2541864784]
>>>>>>>>> Output bytes: 37439855445224 (161129088 bps)
>>>>>>>>> [353111255]
>>>>>>>>> Input packets: 265225370900 (139637 pps)
>>>>>>>>> [2452190]
>>>>>>>>> Output packets: 182586049226 (97140 pps)
>>>>>>>>> [1722571]
>>>>>>>>> Error statistics:
>>>>>>>>> Input errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>> Input drops: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>> Input framing errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>> Carrier transitions: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>> Output errors: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>> Output drops: 0 [0]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Acredito que pelo processamento/uso de memória, a caixa vá mais
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> longe,
>>>
>>>> mesmo com mais tráfego... Temos 1.1Gbps de download agora com 10 mil
>>>>>>>>> usuários... Pode dobrar, triplicar esse tráfego que não fará
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> cócegas,
>>>
>>>> sem
>>>>>>>>> contar que o ganho estatístico será maior ainda aumentando os
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> planos.
>>>
>>>> Att.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Adriano Struck
>>>>>>>>> Gerente de Redes - TPA Telecomunicações
>>>>>>>>> (47) 8406-4438
>>>>>>>>> e-mail: adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>> De: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> gter-bounces at eng.registro.br]
>>>
>>>> Em
>>>>>>>>> nome de Rubens Marins Schner
>>>>>>>>> Enviada em: quarta-feira, 19 de março de 2014 07:56
>>>>>>>>> Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes
>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [GTER] RES: Concentrador PPPoE
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A informacao sobre o limite de 8000 no MX5 foi baseado nesse
>>>>>>>>> documento:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/release-
>>>>>>>>> independent/junos/information-products/pathway-pages/
>>>>>>>>> subscriber-access/subscriber-management-scaling-values.xls
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Uma coisa que voce deve levar em conta quando mede o numero de
>>>>>>>>> clientes
>>>>>>>>> por caixa, e qual a banda de cada cliente, uma coisa e colocar
>>>>>>>>> milhares em
>>>>>>>>> planos de 128K e outra e milhares em planos de 10Mbits/s. Entao
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> tenha
>>>
>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>> em mente por que com o aumento da velocidade, voce pode precisar
>>>>>>>>> colocar
>>>>>>>>> cada vez menos pessoas por caixa.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Outra coisa que pode ser feito no Juniper, e que voce pode viajar
>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>> maionese em termos de controle de banda e firewall por conexao.
>>>>>>>>> Voce pode criar regras com hierarquia, voce pode deixar um
>>>>>>>>> protocolo
>>>>>>>>> mais
>>>>>>>>> rapido, ou mais lento, colocar protocolos com 10% ou 20% da banda
>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>> plano,
>>>>>>>>> pode criar classes de banda baseado no destino e etc. Usamos aqui
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> para
>>>
>>>> colocar na coleira um protocolo popular de compartilhamento de
>>>>>>>>> arquivos que
>>>>>>>>> consome muita banda.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Rubens Marins
>>>>>>>>> Administrador de Sistemas
>>>>>>>>> rubens.marins at gmail dot com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-18 23:05 GMT-03:00 Bruno Cabral <bruno at openline.com.br>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Por esse preço coloque uma parede de RB1100, funciona muitissimo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bem
>>>
>>>> como concentrador para 2000 usuarios cada com direito a load
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> balance
>>>
>>>> automatico
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eu cheguei a atender 1500 usuarios simultaneos numa distro linux
>>>>>>>>>> minha
>>>>>>>>>> (feita para caber em disquete!) num P3 1.3GHz com 1GB RAM (em
>>>>>>>>>> 2007-2008).
>>>>>>>>>> Com RADIUS e tudo. A ideia era lançar como produto mas veio a
>>>>>>>>>> sacanagem que acabou com meu provedor e ...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> !3runo Cabral
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>> http://www.mcosta.eng.br/cursos
>>>>>>>>>> http://f2link.f2b.com.br/impressora3d
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Aqui saiu isso tb, 16k + 5k a licença para 4000 usuários.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18/03/2014 20:50, "Adriano Struck - TPA" <adrianos at tpa.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pagamos 16k dólares nas últimas compras na caixa MX-5, mas isso
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> sem a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> licença para subscribers.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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