[caiu] RES: RES: YouTube travando - testes

Adriano Macedo adriano em mcinfor.com.br
Terça Maio 14 13:15:31 BRT 2013 

Pra mim pela argentina é novidade, até 480p esta estável!

=> eze03s07

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From: "Marcelus Trojahn" <mtrojahn em gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 11:15 AM
To: "Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira" 
<caiu em eng.registro.br>
Subject: Re: [caiu] RES: RES: YouTube travando - testes

> Senhores,
>
> Sinceramente, não acompanhei esta discussão desde o início, apenas li
> rapidamente algumas mensagens deste thread...
>
> Tenho um Google Cache na minha infraestrutura, fica antes de qualquer 
> saída
> para meus links ou PTT... Mesmo assim o player do Youtube trava...
>
> 189.127.48.10 => conecta-gig1
>
> No meu entender, o player do Youtube esta fazendo throttling do tráfego...
> Isto começou de um tempo para cá quando supostamente o Youtube alterou o
> player (segundo o que se lê pela internet).
>
> Quando se inicia o vídeo, o player baixa até 25% e começa o throttling,
> baixando a velocidade de download propositalmente... Se o "cursor" chega
> próximo do ponto até onde ele baixou, ele remove novamente o throttiling
> por alguns segundos e baixa mais um pouco... No entanto, me parece que em
> alguns browsers isto nem sempre funciona...
>
> Já fiz diversos testes sniffando a minha conexão e mesmo com o vídeo vindo
> do meu próprio Google Cache a velocidade não mais corresponde ao que era
> alguns meses atrás...
>
> Se alguém tiver alguma sugestão adicional para testes, será bem vinda.
>
>
>
> 2013/5/14 Leandro de Lima Camargo <leandro em axtelecom.com.br>
>
>> Aqui continua por Guarulhos.
>> IP => gru03s09 [u]
>>
>> Essa rede está sendo anunciada à Telebrás-MG.
>>
>>
>>
>> Atenciosamente
>> Leandro de Lima Camargo
>>
>> -----Mensagem original-----
>> De: caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br [mailto:caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br] Em
>> nome de Raul Olive
>> Enviada em: terça-feira, 14 de maio de 2013 10:50
>> Para: 'Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira'
>> Assunto: [caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
>>
>> O GOOGLE já virou pra rota internacional hoje...
>>
>> Pergunto, não tem nada que possamos fazer para obrigar a usarmos os
>> servidores NACIONAIS? Fazer alguma configuração no DNS?
>>
>> Assim conseguimos uma solução rápida.
>>
>> Os servidores brasileiros ainda estão disponíveis.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Atenciosamente,
>> Raul Olive Eler
>> raul em novonet.com.br
>> Gerente de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Mensagem original-----
>> De: caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br [mailto:caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br] Em
>> nome de Adriano Macedo Enviada em: terça-feira, 14 de maio de 2013 08:29
>> Para: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>> Assunto: Re: [caiu] RES: RES: YouTube travando - testes
>>
>> 08:25 fluindo em 1080p perfeitamente
>>
>> .85.104.174 => gru03s09
>>
>>
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Raul Olive" <raul em novonet.com.br>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 7:10 AM
>> To: "'Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira'"
>> <caiu em eng.registro.br>
>> Subject: [caiu] RES:  RES: YouTube travando - testes
>>
>> > Aqui quando da 00:00 o youtube vira pra GRU(Guarulhos) e fica
>> > perfeito, hoje por exemplo, o trafego virou pro internacional era
>> > 14:00, normalmente vira 12:00.
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Atenciosamente,
>> > Raul Olive Eler
>> > raul em novonet.com.br
>> > Gerente de Tecnologia e Projetos
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Mensagem original-----
>> > De: caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br [mailto:caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br]
>> > Em nome de Adriano Macedo Enviada em: segunda-feira, 13 de maio de
>> > 2013 23:18
>> > Para: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>> > Assunto: Re: [caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
>> >
>> > Quase 00:00 e não consigo ver vídeos em 360p sem parar
>> >
>> > xxx.85.104.242 => mia05x01 : superx_isp_number: 4
>> >
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------------------
>> > From: "Marcos" <marcos.japa em gmail.com>
>> > Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 11:18 AM
>> > To: "Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira"
>> > <caiu em eng.registro.br>
>> > Subject: Re: [caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
>> >
>> >> Acredito ainda que temos que adotar uma análise mais técnica do que
>> >> está ocorrendo, antes de manifestações públicas/judiciais.
>> >>
>> >> Com dados e fatos fica mais fácil cobrar algo de alguém... Ficar
>> >> apenas reclamando não adianta.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Em 9 de maio de 2013 11:07, Edinilson - ATINET
>> >> <edinilson em atinet.com.br>escreveu:
>> >>
>> >>> Consulte seu advogado e o PROCON antes... e leia e re-leia seu
>> >>> contrato com o cliente...
>> >>> PARTICULARMENTE, acho isto um "tiro-no-pé"!
>> >>>
>> >>> Eu acho mais correto acharmos um sentido na lentidao, conforme estou
>> >>> propondo nos emails anteriores.
>> >>> Ou seja: os clientes de TODAS as operadoras estão sendo afetados por
>> >>> esta lentidao?
>> >>> Com esta pequena amostragem que temos, será que já seria o motivo de
>> >>> sair bloqueando?
>> >>>
>> >>> Conheço muitos provedores e não vi quase nenhum deles se
>> >>> pronunciando sobre este assunto aqui na lista.
>> >>>
>> >>> Edinilson
>> >>> ------------------------------**------------
>> >>>
>> >>> ATINET
>> >>> Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876
>> >>> http://www.atinet.com.br
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dário Santos" <
>> >>> dario.csantos em vivatelecom.**com.br
>> >>> <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>> >>>
>> >>> To: "Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira" <
>> >>> caiu em eng.registro.br>
>> >>> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:00 AM
>> >>>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Eu ainda prefiro o bloqueio total por 24h com direito a desvio para
>> >>> pagina de aviso de protesto, afinal não somos obrigados a deixar
>> >>> passar.
>> >>>
>> >>> *
>> >>> Atenciosamente,
>> >>> Dário Santos
>> >>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>> >>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>> >>>    .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>> >>>
>> >>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e nenhuma arma
>> >>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 10:56, Gabriel Chaves
>> >>> <gabriel em airlife.com.br>**
>> >>> escreveu:
>> >>>
>> >>>  Ivan, que seja entao uma briga judicial..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> O detalhe nisso tudo e que seria o Google contra todos os
>> >>>> prejudicados...
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Eu creio que isso funcionaria sim, afinal de contas somos a maioria
>> >>>> e somos quem realmente leva o servico ate as casas dos cidadaos..
>> >>>>
>> >>>> O Bloqueio as propagandas seria um otimo inicio de retaliacao
>> >>>> contra o descaso que o Google vem tendo com TODOS..
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 10:48, Ivan Carlos <icarlos em icarlos.net>
>> escreveu:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> > Campanha um dia sem adsense? Interessante, mas dá pano pra manga
>> >>>> > para  >
>> >>>> uma
>> >>>> > bela briga judicial..
>> >>>> > Em 09/05/2013 10:42, "Edinilson - ATINET"
>> >>>> > <edinilson em atinet.com.br>
>> >>>> > escreveu:
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > > Caro Clecio, será que não seria melhor os provedores bloquearem
>> >>>> > > as PROPAGANDAS destes sites, ao inves do site todo, assim como
>> >>>> > > fez a
>> >>>> > operadora
>> >>>> > > francesa ?
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Edinilson
>> >>>> > > ------------------------------****------------
>> >>>> > > ATINET
>> >>>> > > Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876
>> >>>> > > http://www.atinet.com.br
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clecio Rodrigo" <
>> >>>> > clecio em velbras.com.br
>> >>>> > > >
>> >>>> > > To: "Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira" <
>> >>>> > > caiu em eng.registro.br>
>> >>>> > > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:36 AM
>> >>>> > > Subject: Re: [caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Bom dia,
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Aqui na lista temos um contato do NIC.BR participando da
>> >>>> > > discussão, então poderíamos tomar a seguinte atitude:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > - Definir uma data onde todos os provedores e contar com
>> >>>> > > associações (Abramulti, ANID, Unotel, Internet Sul e muitas
>> >>>> > > outras) e bloquear o acesso ao site do youtube
>> >>>> > > - Redirecionar o tráfego de nossos clientes pra uma página
>> >>>> > > padrão pra todos os provedores, informando que a atitude de
>> >>>> > > bloquear foi pra
>> >>>> forçar
>> >>>> > > o google se posicionar sobre as constantes oscilações na
>> >>>> > > qualidade de acesso ao site youtube
>> >>>> > > - Solicitar ao google uma posição sobre o que vem ocorrendo e
>> >>>> > > ter
>> >>>> alguém
>> >>>> > > participando das listas CAIU e GTER
>> >>>> > > - Contar com o apoio do participante do NIC.BR (desculpe mais
>> >>>> > > não me lembro seu nome) pra que envie esta nossa solicitação ao
>> > google.
>> >>>> > > - Contar com as associações pra possam enviar a mídia a nossa
>> >>>> > > atitude perante ao google.
>> >>>> > > - Caso tenhamos uma posição do google não fazemos nada, se eles
>> >>>> > > não  >
>> >>>> > nos
>> >>>> > > derem atenção efetuamos o bloqueio
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Imaginem agora o tamanho do prejuízo e repercussão negativa na
>> >>>> > > mídia
>> >>>> pro
>> >>>> > > google, acredito que todos que estão enfrentando problemas e >
>> >>>> > > >
>> >>>> participam
>> >>>> > > deste tópico juntos somam com toda certeza mais de 10 mil
>> >>>> > > usuários / clientes, imagina com o apoio das associações e seus
>> > associados?
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Att..
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Clecio Rodrigo
>> >>>> > > Velbras Provedor
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > > Em 09/05/2013 09:47, Lista escreveu:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > >> Bom dia,
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >> Mas se não for deles, que resolvam com quem realmente seja, e
>> >>>> > >> não
>> >>>> fique
>> >>>> > >> nessa palhaçada que está ocorrendo.
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >> Em 9 de maio de 2013 09:35, Raul Olive <raul em novonet.com.br>
>> >>>> escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>
>> >>>> > >>  Apoiado... essas empresas fazem o que quer e quem paga o pato
>> >>>> > >> somos
>> >>>> > nós.
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> --
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> Atenciosamente,
>> >>>> > >>> Raul Olive Eler
>> >>>> > >>> raul em novonet.com.br
>> >>>> > >>> Gerente de Tecnologia e Projetos
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> -----Mensagem original-----
>> >>>> > >>> De: caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br [mailto:caiu-bounces em eng.**
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> >registro.br<caiu-bounces em eng.**registro.br<caiu-bounces em eng.regist
>> >>>> >r
>> >>>> >o.br>
>> >>>> >]
>> >>>> > >>> Em
>> >>>> > >>> nome de Gabriel Chaves
>> >>>> > >>> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 9 de maio de 2013 09:10
>> >>>> > >>> Para: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>> >>>> > >>> Assunto: Re: [caiu] YouTube travando - testes
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> Manoel, abaixo vai um exemplo que vem da França.. Com a
>> >>>> > >>> empresa
>> >>>> Free..
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> http://observatoriodainternet.****br/politica-de-empresa-de-*
>> >>>> > >>> *
>> >>>> > >>> telecomunicacoes-esq<
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> http://observatoriodainternet.**br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>> >>>> telecomunicacoes-esq<http://observatoriodainternet.br/politica-de-e
>> >>>> m
>> >>>> presa-de-telecomunicacoes-esq>
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > >>> uenta-o-debate-de-****neutralidade-de-rede-na-franca
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> O que precisamos avaliar antes de tudo é que no Brasil a
>> >>>> > >>> corda
>> >>>> > >>> >
>> >>>> >>> sempre
>> >>>> > >>> arrebenta para o lado mais fraco, por isso cada passo dado
>> >>>> > >>> afim de
>> >>>> uma
>> >>>> > >>> mobilização desse tipo, tem que ser muito bem orquestrada,
>> >>>> > >>> para nao deixar brexas que possam nos prejudicar
>> >>>> > >>> judicialmente..
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> Eu creio que vale a pena um movimento para um "boicote" bem
>> >>>> > organizado..
>> >>>> > >>> Com certeza depois disso o Google/Youtube teriam a certeza de
>> >>>> > >>> que
>> >>>> quem
>> >>>> > >>> realmente precisa ser bem atendido são os ISP's, pois somos
>> >>>> > >>> nos que levamos os seus anuncios e serviços gratutitamente
>> >>>> > >>> até os nossos clientes.
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 09:05, Manoel Damaceno Souza Neto <
>> >>>> > >>> neto em grupodelfino.com.br> escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>>  Materia na midia? Alguma associacao forte poderia montar
>> >>>> > >>> algo
>> >>>> > >>> >
>> >>>> >>> assim.
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>  Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 09:02:45 -0300
>> >>>> > >>>>> From: dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.****br<
>> >>>> > dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.**br
>> >>>> > <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> To: caiu em eng.registro.br
>> >>>> > >>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] YouTube travando - testes
>> >>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> Boicote aos serviços deles, em nossas redes! ate que alguem
>> >>>> > >>>>> nos responda algo!
>> >>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> *
>> >>>> > >>>>> Atenciosamente,
>> >>>> > >>>>> Dário Santos
>> >>>> > >>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>> >>>> > >>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>> >>>> > >>>>>      .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>> >>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e
>> >>>> > >>>>> nenhuma
>> >>>> arma
>> >>>> > >>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>> >>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:54, Gabriel Chaves <
>> >>>> gabriel em airlife.com.br
>> >>>> > >>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>  Sem dúvidas.. Mais como ?
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:45, Dário Santos
>> >>>> > >>>>>> <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.**c**om.br <http://com.br><
>> >>>> > dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.**br
>> >>>> > <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>> >escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>  Precisamos agir.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> *
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> Dário Santos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>      .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> nenhuma arma forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:33, Roberto Lima
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> <smuxbr em gmail.com>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> Infelizmente em qualquer campo de atuação que envolva a
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> internet
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> estamos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> condicionados a receber a culpa por quaisquer que sejam
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> os
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> problemas.
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> Mesmo
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> utilizando Virtua Residencial em Brasilia, tem dias que
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> desisto de
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> usar o
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> youtube pelas questões de buffer em certos videos que são
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> notavelmente
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> leves e pequenos. Agora videos postados inteiros de shows,
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> filmes
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> e etc
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> rodam facilmente em qualquer resolução.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:28, Gabriel Chaves
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> <gabriel em airlife.com.br
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Gostei da atitude da Free na frança, creio que com eles
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> o Google
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> dialogou..
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>  http://observatoriodainternet.**
>> >>>> **br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>> >>>> > >>>> telecomunicaco<
>> >>>> > http://observatoriodainternet.**br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>> >>>>
>> > telecomunicaco<http://observatoriodainternet.br/politica-de-empresa-de
>> > -telec
>> > omunicaco>
>> >>>> >
>> >>>> > >>>> es-esquenta-o-debate-de-****neutralidade-de-rede-na-franca
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> Com certeza se no começassemos a tomar atitudes parecidas
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> com
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> essa,
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> afim
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> de
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> boicotar a parte realmente lucrativa do Google (os
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> anuncios e
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> blá blá
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> blá),
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> eles seriam obrigados a dialogar e resolver tais
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> pendencias
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> referente a
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> essa baixaria que vem acontecendo em seus serviços de
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> alguns
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> meses
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> para
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> cá
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> !
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Falo nesse tom, pois para o usuário final , a culpa do
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> serviço
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> esta
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> uma
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> porcaria nunca é do Google/Youtube, é sempre culpa do
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> ISP. (
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> ate
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> mesmo
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> por
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> falta de conhecimento por parte do usuario final )
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 05:56, Dário Santos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.**c**om.br <http://com.br><
>> >>>> > dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.**br
>> >>>> > <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> >escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>  Parabéns Marcos, ótima iniciativa.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Senhores, neste caso, qual deve ser nossa postura, a
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> quem
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> reclamar
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> ou
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> pedir
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> suporte? Alguem do Google no Brasil tem acesso a lista?
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> tem
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> visto
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> isso?
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> que
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> se pronuncie, afinal somos os que consomem suas
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> demandas de
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> acesso!
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> Até aqui, não vi uma entrada desse pessoal aqui na lista!
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> *
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Dário Santos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>      .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito,
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> e nenhuma
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> arma
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Em 8 de maio de 2013 14:58, Marcos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> <marcos.japa em gmail.com>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> Prezados,
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Alguns dias atrás realizamos uns testes com um
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> script,
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> utilizando
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> IPs
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> em
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> diversos blocos anunciados de forma diferente por cada
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> fornecedor e
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> PTT.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Basicamente o script alterava o IP e gw da máquina e
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> rodava o
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> redirector
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> através do curl
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ########################## curl
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > redirector.c.youtube.com/****report_mapping<http://redirector.c.youtub
>> > e.com/
>> > **report_mapping>
>> >>>> <
>> >>>> >
>> > http://redirector.c.youtube.**com/report_mapping<http://redirector.c.y
>> > outube
>> > .com/report_mapping>>>>
>> >>>> result
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> ##########################
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> a cada 5 minutos pelo cron.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Através do resultado, foi possível observar que
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> aqueles
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> blocos
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> negados
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> pelos PTTs SP e Terremark, ou anunciados de forma mais
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> específica
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> pelos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> fornecedores, acabavam sendo atendidos por um GGC mais
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> próximo,
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> situação
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> que se mantinha constante.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Os demais (anunciados da mesma forma por PTTs e
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> fornecedores)
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> acabavam
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> sendo atendidos pelo 'gru03s09' nos horários da manhã.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Perto
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> do
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> horário
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> das
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 11h30, alguns blocos começavam a ser atendidos por
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 'mia05x01
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> :
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> superx_isp_number: X' (X variando de 1 a 5) ou 'iad23x01 :
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> superx_isp_number: X'. Com o passar das horas, todos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> esses
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> blocos
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> atendidos
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> por Guarulhos acabaram mudando para Miami (mia) ou
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Washington
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> (iad).
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> Somente após as 23h30 eles voltavam a ser atendidos por
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> gru.
>> >>>> > >>>
>> >>>> > >>>> Esta situação ocorreu durante toda a semana de testes,
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> até no
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> final
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> de
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> semana. Utilizamos um DNS próprio e também o 8.8.8.8.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Não
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> temos
>> >>>> > >>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>> saturação
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> em nenhum link.
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Constatamos que os vídeos ficam com carregamento
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> prejudicado
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> quando
>> >>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>> atendidos por mia ou iad ( esta afirmação já não foi
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> possível
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> testar
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>> a
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>> cada
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> 5 minutos :) ).
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Fica como informação e caso queiram fazer um teste
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>> > >>>>>>>>>> semelhante, ou
>> >>>> > >>>>
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