[caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
Clecio Rodrigo
clecio em velbras.com.br
Quinta Maio 9 12:23:01 BRT 2013
Roberto boa tarde,
Concordo plenamente por você mais poderia tanto o NIC quanto o CGI
intermediar essa discussão entre os provedores afetados e o google a fim
de poder chegar a causa do problema e a uma possível solução.
NIC.BR
O Núcleo de Informação e Coordenação do Ponto BR é uma entidade civil,
sem fins lucrativos, que desde dezembro de 2005 implementa as decisões e
projetos do Comitê Gestor da Internet no Brasil, conforme explicitado no
comunicado ao público e no estatuto do NIC.br.
GCI.BR
O Comitê Gestor da Internet no Brasil (CGI.br) foi criado pela Portaria
Interministerial nº 147, de 31 de maio de 1995 e alterada pelo Decreto
Presidencial nº 4.829, de 3 de setembro de 2003, para coordenar e
integrar todas as iniciativas de serviços Internet no país, promovendo a
qualidade técnica, a inovação e a disseminação dos serviços ofertados.
Composto por membros do governo, do setor empresarial, do terceiro setor
e da comunidade acadêmica, o CGI.br representa um modelo de governança
na Internet pioneiro no que diz respeito à efetivação da participação da
sociedade nas decisões envolvendo a implantação, administração e uso da
rede. Com base nos princípios de multilateralidade, transparência e
democracia, desde julho de 2004 o CGI.br elege democraticamente seus
representantes da sociedade civil para participar das deliberações e
debater prioridades para a internet, junto com o governo.
Att..
Clecio Rodrigo
Velbras Provedor
Em 09/05/2013 12:06, Roberto Lima escreveu:
> Acredito que seja delicado demais envolver o NIC.br nessa questão, uma vez
> que não basta apenas que um representante venha até esta thread e expresse
> sua opinião. Como já mencionaram, esse boicote cria um pé para
> reversão jurídica alem do grande vexame que isso pode acarretar pra cada
> um dos que participarem, então na minha opinião dificilmente o NIC.br será
> a cabeça-chave para esse palco.
>
>
> Em 9 de maio de 2013 11:49, Clecio Rodrigo <clecio em velbras.com.br> escreveu:
>
>> Bom dia,
>>
>> Na verdade não tenho registrado nenhum chamado de assinantes com problemas
>> com youtube, tenho notado as vezes em casa o problema que muitos estão
>> relatando. Tomar uma posição mesmo que drástica pra mim não é fraqueza e
>> sim atitude, eu sugeri o bloqueio como última instância, será que com o
>> NIC.BR, as diversas associações e mídia de cima do assunto eu tenho
>> minhas dúvidas que o google não se posicionariam sobre este assunto, poxa
>> eles tem escritório no Brasil.
>>
>> O NOC VCNET deu uma ideia muito boa se todas as associações enviarem pro
>> google uma carta solicitando uma resposta do problemas enfrentados por seus
>> associados, acredito que também seria uma saída e deixaria o André o Kurt
>> mais tranquilos (brincadeira pessoal, foi pra descontrair)
>>
>>
>> Att..
>>
>> Clecio Rodrigo
>> Velbras Provedor
>>
>> Em 09/05/2013 11:35, André Machado escreveu:
>>
>> Clécio, se youtube tá lento, é problema dele! A sua internet tá
>>> funcionando
>>> legal no resto das outras coisas?
>>> O que vocês estão querendo é impensável ...
>>> Acredito que essa ideia surgiu num momento de fraqueza e que assim que as
>>> partes ponderarem um pouquinho mais, verão que isso é muito sem lógica...
>>>
>>>
>>> _____________
>>> André
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 11:19, Clecio Rodrigo <clecio em velbras.com.br>
>>> escreveu:
>>>
>>> André bom dia,
>>>> Por isso mencionei todos e juntos, vai perder cliente pra quem pra VIVO,
>>>> CLARO, TIM, aqui pelo menos é mais fácil eu tirar clientes de internet
>>>> deles que o contrário, e nada que um bom aviso com antecedência
>>>> explicando
>>>> tudo com detalhes os motivos que levou a essa atitude, um telefone onde o
>>>> cliente venha esclarecer suas dúvidas. E a divulgação da mídia com toda
>>>> certeza não traria prejuízo algum, imagina algo como "Provedores de
>>>> internet do Brasil bloqueiam acesso ao site youtube em protesto contra a
>>>> falta de qualidade e transparência do Google"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Att..
>>>>
>>>> Clecio Rodrigo
>>>> Velbras Provedor
>>>>
>>>> Em 09/05/2013 11:02, André Machado escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> É só fazer e começar a perder clientes... boa sorte.
>>>>>
>>>>> _________
>>>>> André
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 11:00, Dário Santos
>>>>> <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.**c**om.br <http://com.br> <
>>>>> dario.csantos em vivatelecom.**com.br <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>> Eu ainda prefiro o bloqueio total por 24h com direito a desvio para
>>>>>
>>>>>> pagina
>>>>>> de aviso de protesto, afinal não somos obrigados a deixar passar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>> .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e nenhuma arma
>>>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 10:56, Gabriel Chaves <gabriel em airlife.com.br
>>>>>>
>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>> Ivan, que seja entao uma briga judicial..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> O detalhe nisso tudo e que seria o Google contra todos os
>>>>>>> prejudicados...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Eu creio que isso funcionaria sim, afinal de contas somos a maioria e
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> somos
>>>>>> quem realmente leva o servico ate as casas dos cidadaos..
>>>>>>> O Bloqueio as propagandas seria um otimo inicio de retaliacao contra o
>>>>>>> descaso que o Google vem tendo com TODOS..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 10:48, Ivan Carlos <icarlos em icarlos.net>
>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Campanha um dia sem adsense? Interessante, mas dá pano pra manga
>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>> bela briga judicial..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 09/05/2013 10:42, "Edinilson - ATINET" <edinilson em atinet.com.br>
>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Caro Clecio, será que não seria melhor os provedores bloquearem as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PROPAGANDAS destes sites, ao inves do site todo, assim como fez a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> operadora
>>>>>>>> francesa ?
>>>>>>>>> Edinilson
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------******------------
>>>>>>>>> ATINET
>>>>>>>>> Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876
>>>>>>>>> http://www.atinet.com.br
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clecio Rodrigo" <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> clecio em velbras.com.br
>>>>>>>> To: "Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira" <
>>>>>>>>> caiu em eng.registro.br>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:36 AM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bom dia,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Aqui na lista temos um contato do NIC.BR participando da discussão,
>>>>>>>>> então poderíamos tomar a seguinte atitude:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Definir uma data onde todos os provedores e contar com associações
>>>>>>>>> (Abramulti, ANID, Unotel, Internet Sul e muitas outras) e bloquear o
>>>>>>>>> acesso ao site do youtube
>>>>>>>>> - Redirecionar o tráfego de nossos clientes pra uma página padrão
>>>>>>>>> pra
>>>>>>>>> todos os provedores, informando que a atitude de bloquear foi pra
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> forçar
>>>>>>>> o google se posicionar sobre as constantes oscilações na qualidade de
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> acesso ao site youtube
>>>>>>>>> - Solicitar ao google uma posição sobre o que vem ocorrendo e ter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> alguém
>>>>>>>> participando das listas CAIU e GTER
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Contar com o apoio do participante do NIC.BR (desculpe mais não
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> lembro seu nome) pra que envie esta nossa solicitação ao google.
>>>>>>>>> - Contar com as associações pra possam enviar a mídia a nossa
>>>>>>>>> atitude
>>>>>>>>> perante ao google.
>>>>>>>>> - Caso tenhamos uma posição do google não fazemos nada, se eles não
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nos
>>>>>>> derem atenção efetuamos o bloqueio
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Imaginem agora o tamanho do prejuízo e repercussão negativa na mídia
>>>>>>>>> pro
>>>>>>>> google, acredito que todos que estão enfrentando problemas e
>>>>>>>> participam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> deste tópico juntos somam com toda certeza mais de 10 mil usuários /
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> clientes, imagina com o apoio das associações e seus associados?
>>>>>>>>> Att..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Clecio Rodrigo
>>>>>>>>> Velbras Provedor
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 09/05/2013 09:47, Lista escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bom dia,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mas se não for deles, que resolvam com quem realmente seja, e não
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> fique
>>>>>>>> nessa palhaçada que está ocorrendo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 09:35, Raul Olive <raul em novonet.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>> Apoiado... essas empresas fazem o que quer e quem paga o pato
>>>>>>>> somos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nós.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>> Raul Olive Eler
>>>>>>>>>>> raul em novonet.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>> Gerente de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>>> De: caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br [mailto:caiu-bounces em eng.**
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> registro.br<caiu-bounces em eng.****registro.br<caiu-bounces em eng.**
>>>>>>>>>> registro.br <caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> nome de Gabriel Chaves
>>>>>>>>>>> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 9 de maio de 2013 09:10
>>>>>>>>>>> Para: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [caiu] YouTube travando - testes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Manoel, abaixo vai um exemplo que vem da França.. Com a empresa
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Free..
>>>>>>>>>>> http://observatoriodainternet.******br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>> telecomunicacoes-esq<
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://observatoriodainternet.****br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>> telecomunicacoes-esq<http://**observatoriodainternet.br/**
>>>>>> politica-de-empresa-de-**telecomunicacoes-esq<http://observatoriodainternet.br/politica-de-empresa-de-telecomunicacoes-esq>
>>>>>> uenta-o-debate-de-******neutralidade-de-rede-na-franca
>>>>>>>>>>> O que precisamos avaliar antes de tudo é que no Brasil a corda
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> sempre
>>>>>>>>> arrebenta para o lado mais fraco, por isso cada passo dado afim de
>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>> mobilização desse tipo, tem que ser muito bem orquestrada, para nao
>>>>>>>>> deixar
>>>>>>>>>>> brexas que possam nos prejudicar judicialmente..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Eu creio que vale a pena um movimento para um "boicote" bem
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> organizado..
>>>>>>>>> Com certeza depois disso o Google/Youtube teriam a certeza de que
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> quem
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> realmente precisa ser bem atendido são os ISP's, pois somos nos que
>>>>>>>>> levamos
>>>>>>>>>>> os seus anuncios e serviços gratutitamente até os nossos clientes.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 09:05, Manoel Damaceno Souza Neto <
>>>>>>>>>>> neto em grupodelfino.com.br> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Materia na midia? Alguma associacao forte poderia montar algo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> assim.
>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 09:02:45 -0300
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.******br<
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.****br<dario.csantos@**
>>>>>>>>>>>> vivatelecom.com.br <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: caiu em eng.registro.br
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] YouTube travando - testes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Boicote aos serviços deles, em nossas redes! ate que alguem nos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> responda algo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e nenhuma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> arma
>>>>>>>>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:54, Gabriel Chaves <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gabriel em airlife.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>> Sem dúvidas.. Mais como ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:45, Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.****c**om.br <http://com.br><
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.****br<dario.csantos@**
>>>>>>>>>>>>> vivatelecom.com.br <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> Precisamos agir.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nenhuma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arma forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:33, Roberto Lima <smuxbr em gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infelizmente em qualquer campo de atuação que envolva a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> estamos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> condicionados a receber a culpa por quaisquer que sejam os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problemas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mesmo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> utilizando Virtua Residencial em Brasilia, tem dias que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desisto de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usar o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube pelas questões de buffer em certos videos que são
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notavelmente
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leves e pequenos. Agora videos postados inteiros de shows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> filmes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rodam facilmente em qualquer resolução.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:28, Gabriel Chaves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gabriel em airlife.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gostei da atitude da Free na frança, creio que com eles o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dialogou..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://observatoriodainternet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> telecomunicaco<
>>>>>>>> http://observatoriodainternet.****br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>>> telecomunicaco<http://**observatoriodainternet.br/**
>>>>>>>> politica-de-empresa-de-**telecomunicaco<http://observatoriodainternet.br/politica-de-empresa-de-telecomunicaco>
>>>>>>>> es-esquenta-o-debate-de-******neutralidade-de-rede-na-franca
>>>>>>>>>> Com certeza se no começassemos a tomar atitudes parecidas
>>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essa,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> boicotar a parte realmente lucrativa do Google (os anuncios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blá blá
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blá),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eles seriam obrigados a dialogar e resolver tais pendencias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> referente a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essa baixaria que vem acontecendo em seus serviços de alguns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cá
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Falo nesse tom, pois para o usuário final , a culpa do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serviço
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> porcaria nunca é do Google/Youtube, é sempre culpa do ISP. (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> falta de conhecimento por parte do usuario final )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 05:56, Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.****c**om.br <http://com.br><
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.****br<dario.csantos@**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vivatelecom.com.br <dario.csantos em vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>> Parabéns Marcos, ótima iniciativa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Senhores, neste caso, qual deve ser nossa postura, a quem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reclamar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suporte? Alguem do Google no Brasil tem acesso a lista?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isso?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> se pronuncie, afinal somos os que consomem suas demandas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acesso!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Até aqui, não vi uma entrada desse pessoal aqui na lista!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nenhuma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8 de maio de 2013 14:58, Marcos <marcos.japa em gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prezados,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alguns dias atrás realizamos uns testes com um script,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> utilizando
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diversos blocos anunciados de forma diferente por cada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fornecedor e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PTT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basicamente o script alterava o IP e gw da máquina e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rodava o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirector
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> através do curl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ########################## curl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirector.c.youtube.com/******report_mapping<http://redirector.c.youtube.com/****report_mapping>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://**redirector.c.youtube.com/****report_mapping<http://redirector.c.youtube.com/**report_mapping>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://redirector.c.youtube.****com/report_mapping<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://**redirector.c.youtube.com/**report_mapping<http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>> ##########################
>>>>>>>>>> a cada 5 minutos pelo cron.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Através do resultado, foi possível observar que aqueles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negados
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pelos PTTs SP e Terremark, ou anunciados de forma mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> específica
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pelos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fornecedores, acabavam sendo atendidos por um GGC mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> próximo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> situação
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que se mantinha constante.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Os demais (anunciados da mesma forma por PTTs e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fornecedores)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> acabavam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sendo atendidos pelo 'gru03s09' nos horários da manhã.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horário
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> das
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 11h30, alguns blocos começavam a ser atendidos por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'mia05x01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superx_isp_number: X' (X variando de 1 a 5) ou 'iad23x01 :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superx_isp_number: X'. Com o passar das horas, todos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> esses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blocos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atendidos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por Guarulhos acabaram mudando para Miami (mia) ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Washington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (iad).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somente após as 23h30 eles voltavam a ser atendidos por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gru.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Esta situação ocorreu durante toda a semana de testes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> até no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> final
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> semana. Utilizamos um DNS próprio e também o 8.8.8.8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> temos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saturação
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em nenhum link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Constatamos que os vídeos ficam com carregamento
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudicado
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quando
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atendidos por mia ou iad ( esta afirmação já não foi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possível
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> testar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 minutos :) ).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fica como informação e caso queiram fazer um teste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> semelhante, ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais informações/constatações, compartilhem!
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>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> <https://**eng.registro.br/mailman/**options/caiu<https://eng.registro.br/mailman/options/caiu>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> *Clecio Rodrigo da Silva*
>>>>>>>>> Gerente de T.I.
>>>>>>>>> Provedor Velbras
>>>>>>>>> MSN: clecio_rodrigo em hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Tel.: (17) 3249-4530
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>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> <https://**eng.registro.br/mailman/**options/caiu<https://eng.registro.br/mailman/options/caiu>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ______________________________****_________________
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>>>>> <https://**eng.registro.br/mailman/**options/caiu<https://eng.registro.br/mailman/options/caiu>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> *Clecio Rodrigo da Silva*
>>>> Gerente de T.I.
>>>> Provedor Velbras
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>> --
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>> Gerente de T.I.
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