[caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes

Roberto Lima smuxbr em gmail.com
Quinta Maio 9 12:06:18 BRT 2013


Acredito que seja delicado demais envolver o NIC.br nessa questão, uma vez
que não basta apenas que um representante venha até esta thread e expresse
sua opinião. Como já mencionaram, esse boicote cria um pé para
reversão jurídica  alem do grande vexame que isso pode acarretar pra cada
um dos que participarem, então na minha opinião dificilmente o NIC.br será
a cabeça-chave para esse palco.


Em 9 de maio de 2013 11:49, Clecio Rodrigo <clecio at velbras.com.br> escreveu:

> Bom dia,
>
> Na verdade não tenho registrado nenhum chamado de assinantes com problemas
> com youtube, tenho notado as vezes em casa o problema que muitos estão
> relatando. Tomar uma posição mesmo que drástica pra mim não é fraqueza e
> sim atitude, eu sugeri o bloqueio como última instância, será que com o
> NIC.BR, as diversas associações e mídia de cima do assunto eu tenho
> minhas dúvidas que o google não se posicionariam sobre este assunto, poxa
> eles tem escritório no Brasil.
>
> O NOC VCNET deu uma ideia muito boa se todas as associações enviarem pro
> google uma carta solicitando uma resposta do problemas enfrentados por seus
> associados, acredito que também seria uma saída e deixaria o André o Kurt
> mais tranquilos (brincadeira pessoal, foi pra descontrair)
>
>
> Att..
>
> Clecio Rodrigo
> Velbras Provedor
>
> Em 09/05/2013 11:35, André Machado escreveu:
>
>  Clécio, se youtube tá lento, é problema dele! A sua internet tá
>> funcionando
>> legal no resto das outras coisas?
>> O que vocês estão querendo é impensável ...
>> Acredito que essa ideia surgiu num momento de fraqueza e que assim que as
>> partes ponderarem um pouquinho mais, verão que isso é muito sem lógica...
>>
>>
>> _____________
>> André
>>
>>
>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 11:19, Clecio Rodrigo <clecio at velbras.com.br>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>  André bom dia,
>>>
>>> Por isso mencionei todos e juntos, vai perder cliente pra quem pra VIVO,
>>> CLARO, TIM, aqui pelo menos é mais fácil eu tirar clientes de internet
>>> deles que o contrário, e nada que um bom aviso com antecedência
>>> explicando
>>> tudo com detalhes os motivos que levou a essa atitude, um telefone onde o
>>> cliente venha esclarecer suas dúvidas. E a divulgação da mídia com toda
>>> certeza não traria prejuízo algum, imagina algo como "Provedores de
>>> internet do Brasil bloqueiam acesso ao site youtube em protesto contra a
>>> falta de qualidade e transparência do Google"?
>>>
>>>
>>> Att..
>>>
>>> Clecio Rodrigo
>>> Velbras Provedor
>>>
>>> Em 09/05/2013 11:02, André Machado escreveu:
>>>
>>>  É só fazer e começar a perder clientes... boa sorte.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _________
>>>> André
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 11:00, Dário Santos
>>>> <dario.csantos at vivatelecom.**c**om.br <http://com.br> <
>>>> dario.csantos at vivatelecom.**com.br <dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>   Eu ainda prefiro o bloqueio total por 24h com direito a desvio para
>>>>
>>>>> pagina
>>>>> de aviso de protesto, afinal não somos obrigados a deixar passar.
>>>>>
>>>>> *
>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>       .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e nenhuma arma
>>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 10:56, Gabriel Chaves <gabriel at airlife.com.br
>>>>>
>>>>>  escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ivan, que seja entao uma briga judicial..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> O detalhe nisso tudo e que seria o Google contra todos os
>>>>>> prejudicados...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eu creio que isso funcionaria sim, afinal de contas somos a maioria e
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  somos
>>>>>
>>>>>  quem realmente leva o servico ate as casas dos cidadaos..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> O Bloqueio as propagandas seria um otimo inicio de retaliacao contra o
>>>>>> descaso que o Google vem tendo com TODOS..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 10:48, Ivan Carlos <icarlos at icarlos.net>
>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Campanha um dia sem adsense? Interessante, mas dá pano pra manga
>>>>>> para
>>>>>> uma
>>>>>> bela briga judicial..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 09/05/2013 10:42, "Edinilson - ATINET" <edinilson at atinet.com.br>
>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Caro Clecio, será que não seria melhor os provedores bloquearem as
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> PROPAGANDAS destes sites, ao inves do site todo, assim como fez a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  operadora
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  francesa ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Edinilson
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------******------------
>>>>>>>> ATINET
>>>>>>>> Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876
>>>>>>>> http://www.atinet.com.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clecio Rodrigo" <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  clecio at velbras.com.br
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  To: "Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira" <
>>>>>>>> caiu at eng.registro.br>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:36 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] RES: YouTube travando - testes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bom dia,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Aqui na lista temos um contato do NIC.BR participando da discussão,
>>>>>>>> então poderíamos tomar a seguinte atitude:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Definir uma data onde todos os provedores e contar com associações
>>>>>>>> (Abramulti, ANID, Unotel, Internet Sul e muitas outras) e bloquear o
>>>>>>>> acesso ao site do youtube
>>>>>>>> - Redirecionar o tráfego de nossos clientes pra uma página padrão
>>>>>>>> pra
>>>>>>>> todos os provedores, informando que a atitude de bloquear foi pra
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  forçar
>>>>>>> o google se posicionar sobre as constantes oscilações na qualidade de
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> acesso ao site youtube
>>>>>>>> - Solicitar ao google uma posição sobre o que vem ocorrendo e ter
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  alguém
>>>>>>> participando das listas CAIU e GTER
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Contar com o apoio do participante do NIC.BR (desculpe mais não
>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>> lembro seu nome) pra que envie esta nossa solicitação ao google.
>>>>>>>> - Contar com as associações pra possam enviar a mídia a nossa
>>>>>>>> atitude
>>>>>>>> perante ao google.
>>>>>>>> - Caso tenhamos uma posição do google não fazemos nada, se eles não
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  nos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> derem atenção efetuamos o bloqueio
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Imaginem agora o tamanho do prejuízo e repercussão negativa na mídia
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  pro
>>>>>>> google, acredito que todos que estão enfrentando problemas e
>>>>>>> participam
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> deste tópico juntos somam com toda certeza mais de 10 mil usuários /
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> clientes, imagina com o apoio das associações e seus associados?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Att..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Clecio Rodrigo
>>>>>>>> Velbras Provedor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 09/05/2013 09:47, Lista escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   Bom dia,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mas se não for deles, que resolvam com quem realmente seja, e não
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  fique
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> nessa palhaçada que está ocorrendo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 09:35, Raul Olive <raul at novonet.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    Apoiado... essas empresas fazem o que quer e quem paga o pato
>>>>>>> somos
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nós.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>> Raul Olive Eler
>>>>>>>>>> raul at novonet.com.br
>>>>>>>>>> Gerente de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Mensagem original-----
>>>>>>>>>> De: caiu-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:caiu-bounces at eng.**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  registro.br<caiu-bounces at eng.****registro.br<caiu-bounces at eng.**
>>>>>>>>> registro.br <caiu-bounces at eng.registro.br>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Em
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> nome de Gabriel Chaves
>>>>>>>>>> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 9 de maio de 2013 09:10
>>>>>>>>>> Para: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>>>>>>>> Assunto: Re: [caiu] YouTube travando - testes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Manoel, abaixo vai um exemplo que vem da França.. Com a empresa
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Free..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://observatoriodainternet.******br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> telecomunicacoes-esq<
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  http://observatoriodainternet.****br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> telecomunicacoes-esq<http://**observatoriodainternet.br/**
>>>>> politica-de-empresa-de-**telecomunicacoes-esq<http://observatoriodainternet.br/politica-de-empresa-de-telecomunicacoes-esq>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>  uenta-o-debate-de-******neutralidade-de-rede-na-franca
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> O que precisamos avaliar antes de tudo é que no Brasil a corda
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  sempre
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> arrebenta para o lado mais fraco, por isso cada passo dado afim de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> mobilização desse tipo, tem que ser muito bem orquestrada, para nao
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> deixar
>>>>>>>>>> brexas que possam nos prejudicar judicialmente..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Eu creio que vale a pena um movimento para um "boicote" bem
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  organizado..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Com certeza depois disso o Google/Youtube teriam a certeza de que
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> quem
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> realmente precisa ser bem atendido são os ISP's, pois somos nos que
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> levamos
>>>>>>>>>> os seus anuncios e serviços gratutitamente até os nossos clientes.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 09:05, Manoel Damaceno Souza Neto <
>>>>>>>>>> neto at grupodelfino.com.br> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Materia na midia? Alguma associacao forte poderia montar algo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  assim.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    Date: Thu, 9 May 2013 09:02:45 -0300
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  From: dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.******br<
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.****br<dario.csantos@**
>>>>>>>>>>> vivatelecom.com.br <dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> To: caiu at eng.registro.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Subject: Re: [caiu] YouTube travando - testes
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Boicote aos serviços deles, em nossas redes! ate que alguem nos
>>>>>>>>>>>> responda algo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>>>>>>>>        .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e nenhuma
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  arma
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:54, Gabriel Chaves <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  gabriel at airlife.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Sem dúvidas.. Mais como ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:45, Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dario.csantos at vivatelecom.****c**om.br <http://com.br><
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.****br<dario.csantos@**
>>>>>>>>>>>> vivatelecom.com.br <dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Precisamos agir.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nenhuma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arma forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:33, Roberto Lima <smuxbr at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Infelizmente em qualquer campo de atuação que envolva a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  internet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   estamos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> condicionados a receber a culpa por quaisquer que sejam os
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problemas.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Mesmo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> utilizando Virtua Residencial em Brasilia, tem dias que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> desisto de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   usar o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> youtube pelas questões de buffer em certos videos que são
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> notavelmente
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  leves e pequenos. Agora videos postados inteiros de shows,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> filmes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   e etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rodam facilmente em qualquer resolução.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 08:28, Gabriel Chaves
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <gabriel at airlife.com.br
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gostei da atitude da Free na frança, creio que com eles o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   dialogou..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>     http://observatoriodainternet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  **br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> telecomunicaco<
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  http://observatoriodainternet.****br/politica-de-empresa-de-**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> telecomunicaco<http://**observatoriodainternet.br/**
>>>>>>> politica-de-empresa-de-**telecomunicaco<http://observatoriodainternet.br/politica-de-empresa-de-telecomunicaco>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  es-esquenta-o-debate-de-******neutralidade-de-rede-na-franca
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   Com certeza se no começassemos a tomar atitudes parecidas
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   essa,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   boicotar a parte realmente lucrativa do Google (os anuncios
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   blá blá
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blá),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> eles seriam obrigados a dialogar e resolver tais pendencias
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   referente a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> essa baixaria que vem acontecendo em seus serviços de alguns
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  meses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  para
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> !
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Falo nesse tom, pois para o usuário final , a culpa do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> serviço
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   esta
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> porcaria nunca é do Google/Youtube, é sempre culpa do ISP. (
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ate
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   mesmo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  falta de conhecimento por parte do usuario final )
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 9 de maio de 2013 05:56, Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <dario.csantos at vivatelecom.****c**om.br <http://com.br><
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.****br<dario.csantos@**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vivatelecom.com.br <dario.csantos at vivatelecom.com.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>     Parabéns Marcos, ótima iniciativa.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Senhores, neste caso, qual deve ser nossa postura, a quem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   reclamar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pedir
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suporte? Alguem do Google no Brasil tem acesso a lista?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tem
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   visto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> isso?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> se pronuncie, afinal somos os que consomem suas demandas
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   acesso!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Até aqui, não vi uma entrada desse pessoal aqui na lista!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dário Santos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **Gerência de Tecnologia e Projetos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +**55 71 3208-1672 ; +55 71 9241-8465**
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>        .:: Viva Telecom ::.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Cristo tornou-se maldito para que eu fosse bem dito, e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nenhuma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   arma
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> forjada contra mim prevalecerá"*
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 8 de maio de 2013 14:58, Marcos <marcos.japa at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Prezados,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alguns dias atrás realizamos uns testes com um script,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   utilizando
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IPs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diversos blocos anunciados de forma diferente por cada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fornecedor e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  PTT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basicamente o script alterava o IP e gw da máquina e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rodava o
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   redirector
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> através do curl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  ########################## curl
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redirector.c.youtube.com/******report_mapping<http://redirector.c.youtube.com/****report_mapping>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://**redirector.c.youtube.com/****report_mapping<http://redirector.c.youtube.com/**report_mapping>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://redirector.c.youtube.****com/report_mapping<
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://**redirector.c.youtube.com/**report_mapping<http://redirector.c.youtube.com/report_mapping>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> result
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  ##########################
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   a cada 5 minutos pelo cron.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Através do resultado, foi possível observar que aqueles
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   blocos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> negados
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pelos PTTs SP e Terremark, ou anunciados de forma mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  específica
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  pelos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fornecedores, acabavam sendo atendidos por um GGC mais
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  próximo,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  situação
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> que se mantinha constante.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Os demais (anunciados da mesma forma por PTTs e
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fornecedores)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   acabavam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sendo atendidos pelo 'gru03s09' nos horários da manhã.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Perto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> horário
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> das
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  11h30, alguns blocos começavam a ser atendidos por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'mia05x01
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superx_isp_number: X' (X variando de 1 a 5) ou 'iad23x01 :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> superx_isp_number: X'. Com o passar das horas, todos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  esses
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   blocos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atendidos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> por Guarulhos acabaram mudando para Miami (mia) ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Washington
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   (iad).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Somente após as 23h30 eles voltavam a ser atendidos por
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gru.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Esta situação ocorreu durante toda a semana de testes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> até no
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>    final
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> semana. Utilizamos um DNS próprio e também o 8.8.8.8.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   temos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saturação
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em nenhum link.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Constatamos que os vídeos ficam com carregamento
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prejudicado
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   quando
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atendidos por mia ou iad ( esta afirmação já não foi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> possível
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   testar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   cada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5 minutos :) ).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fica como informação e caso queiram fazer um teste
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   semelhante, ou
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tenham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mais informações/constatações, compartilhem!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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