[caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
Fabio Catunda
fcatunda em lightcomm.com.br
Terça Abril 17 19:59:48 BRT 2012
Diego,
Eu concordo com você, essa mudança não me parece fazer sentido algum.
Em um dos FISLs que participei tive a oportunidade de assistir uma
palestra do criador do Postifx, indagando o mesmo sobre a questão dos
spammers ele foi rápido em responder "eles são os primeiros a se adaptar
aos bloqueios anti-spam". Tendo a resposta dele em vista, acho seu
comentário perfeito.
Att,
Fábio Catunda.
On 17-04-2012 19:54, Diego F. Duarte wrote:
> Mas eu sou o unico que acha essa mudança MUITO inútil?
>
> Basta o implementador da botnet ir, e alterar a porta de destino, e se
> necessário, adicionar o protocolo SMTPS, tendo em vista que no ponto de
> vista de servidor, SMTP E SMTPS são a mesma coisa, mudando apenas o fato
> que tem uma camada de criptografia antes do servidor de e-mails.
>
> Programinha de indio...
>
> Em 17 de abril de 2012 19:06, Livio Zanol Puppim<
> livio.zanol.puppim at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>
>> Já vi bloqueio da Oi em roteador da Bahia na porta 465...
>>
>> Foi bem legal descobrir o problema. Somente clientes que tinham que pegar
>> transito pela Bahia para chegar ao ES na porta 465 sofriam o problema,
>> qualquer outro tráfego era normal.
>>
>> Muito legal né?
>>
>> Em 17 de abril de 2012 18:19, Otavio Augusto<otavioti at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>
>>> Eu ja tenho a bastante tempo.
>>>
>>> Em 17 de abril de 2012 17:42, Jacques de Beijer
>>> <jacques.beijer at unimedbelem.com.br> escreveu:
>>>
>>>> Não, não sou cliente GVT.
>>>> Mas eu concordo com o procedimento da GVT de bloquear, apenas creio que
>>>>
>>> pelo
>>>
>>>> porte da empresa deveria ter uma política informativa. E outra, a GVT
>>>> deveria ter bloqueado este acesso há mt tempo.
>>>> O mesmo vale para IPv6, vamos deixando pra depois, para depois e
>>>>
>> acabamos
>>
>>>> nos dando de cara no muro final do v4 tendo que correr atrás do tempo
>>>> perdido.
>>>>
>>>> Ps: Nesta thread ninquém implementou o bloqueio à porta 25!
>>>>
>>>> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Marcos Diego
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:30 PM
>>>>
>>>> To: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
>>>>
>>>> descupe gente mais qualquer administrador de redes deveria ja saber que
>>>>
>>> isso
>>>
>>>> ia acontecer
>>>> a anos se fala isso
>>>>
>>>> Marcos
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques de Beijer"
>>>> <jacques.beijer at unimedbelem.com.br>
>>>> To: "Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira"
>>>> <caiu at eng.registro.br>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:25 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Parabéns à GVT que implementou o Bloqueio à porta 25, sem avisar os
>>>>
>>> clientes
>>>
>>>> com antecedência!
>>>> Mas pela guerra contra os spammers, eu apóio!
>>>>
>>>> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Hamilton Vera
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 5:18 PM
>>>> To: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
>>>>
>>>> Parabéns para GVT :)
>>>>
>>>> Em 17 de abril de 2012 16:25, Diego - Starhosting
>>>> <diego at starhosting.com.br>escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Bem, corrigindo a informação, e colocando algo mais exato:
>>>>>
>>>>> O NOC passou a info errada, e vai ser so a 25 mesmo. Testei com o cara
>>>>> aqui em Cascavel a 465 e a 587 em TLS, e funcionaram normalmente. Acho
>>>>>
>>> que
>>>
>>>>> isso passa a regua no problema...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Diego - Starhosting
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:11 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> To: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
>>>>>
>>>>> Sim, mas sem comunicado oficial e nem nada?
>>>>>
>>>>> Eu tive informacoes do NOC da GVT q parece q estao testando esse
>>>>>
>>> bloqueio
>>>
>>>>> mesmo, mas pelo que disseram querem bloquear TAMBEM a 465 e a 587, que
>>>>>
>>> já
>>>
>>>>> não faz o menor sentido!
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Eduardo Schoedler
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 4:08 PM
>>>>> To: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
>>>>>
>>>>> Já demoraram fazer a troca da porta 25 para 587, esse projeto já
>>>>>
>> existe
>>
>>>>> desde 2009!!!
>>>>> Implantamos aqui desde aquela época.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Eduardo Schoedler
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 17 de abril de 2012 15:58, Diego - Starhosting
>>>>> <diego at starhosting.com.br>**escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Boa tarde colegas,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Um cliente nosso de Cascavel - PR, entrou em contato com problemas em
>>>>>>
>>> uma
>>>
>>>>>> das suas filiais ao se conectar na porta 25.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pelo que o técnico deles falou, o problema se repete em outros
>>>>>>
>> clientes
>>
>>>>>> na
>>>>>> cidade...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Diego - Starhosting
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:46 PM
>>>>>> To: netbode at gmail.com
>>>>>> Subject: Fw: [caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Mensagem Original----- From: Ausli Sena
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2012 3:15 PM
>>>>>> To: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>>>> Subject: [caiu] Re : GVT porta 25
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Valeu Kleyton, para todos é uma grande explicação do ocorrido.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ausli Sena
>>>>>> (21) 81605946
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ______________________________****__
>>>>>> De : Kleyton Marques Faria<kleytonmf at gmail.com>
>>>>>> À : Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>>>> <caiu at eng.registro.br>
>>>>>> Envoyé le : Mardi 17 avril 2012 15h12
>>>>>> Objet : Re: [caiu] GVT porta 25
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Galera segue um informativo:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.google.com.br/url?****sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=****<
>>>>>>
>>> https://www.google.com.br/url?**sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=**>
>>>
>>>>>> web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=****http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cert.br%**
>>>>>> 2Fdocs%2Fct-spam%2Fct-spam-****gerencia-porta-25.pdf&ei=**
>>>>>> M7KNT_vGBYaJtwfY_bTwCw&usg=****AFQjCNG38f716_****
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>>>>>> 2F%2Fwww.cert.br%2Fdocs%2Fct-**spam%2Fct-spam-gerencia-porta-**
>>>>>> 25.pdf&ei=M7KNT_vGBYaJtwfY_**bTwCw&usg=AFQjCNG38f716_**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MKZIk9eSAb8hTFkvyD6A&sig2=**kxDV0HgTnmGsu7qyRd5nfA<
>>>>>>
>>>
>> https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cert.br%2Fdocs%2Fct-spam%2Fct-spam-gerencia-porta-25.pdf&ei=M7KNT_vGBYaJtwfY_bTwCw&usg=AFQjCNG38f716_MKZIk9eSAb8hTFkvyD6A&sig2=kxDV0HgTnmGsu7qyRd5nfA
>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Cleo Segundo<segundocleo at gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maceió, tá fora.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 17 de abril de 2012 14:46, Leonardo Silva Amaral
>>>>>>> <leleobhz at leleobhz.org>****escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://tecnoblog.net/98710/******gmail-servico-google/<
>>>>>>>>
>>> http://tecnoblog.net/98710/****gmail-servico-google/>
>>>
>>>>>>> <http://**tecnoblog.net/98710/**gmail-**servico-google/<
>>>>>>>
>>> http://tecnoblog.net/98710/**gmail-servico-google/>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://tecnoblog.net/98710/****gmail-servico-google/<
>>>>>>>
>>> http://tecnoblog.net/98710/**gmail-servico-google/>
>>>
>>>>>>> <http://**tecnoblog.net/98710/gmail-**servico-google/<
>>>>>>>
>>> http://tecnoblog.net/98710/gmail-servico-google/>
>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 17-04-2012 13:59, Bruno - Gmail escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alguem com gmail cooperativo fora?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Campinas-SP
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 04/17/2012 01:51 PM, Anselmo [Webgenium] wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Exatamente Cesar 587 é a porta padrão mas o x da questão é que a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> GVT
>>>
>>>>>>>>>> bloqueou HOJE .
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2012/4/17 César Miguel Canavezzi<cesar at inetvr.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Todas operadoras vão bloquear a porta 25, isso foi um acordo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>> entre
>>>
>>>>>>> todas
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> operadoras, todos os provedores. Já Oriente seus clientes a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>> mudar
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> configurações para porta 587.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cesar
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Enviado via iPhone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 17/04/2012, às 13:47, "Anselmo [Webgenium]"<anselmo@**
>>>>>>>>>>> webgenium.com.br<anselmo at webgenium.com.br>>
>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Saudações
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pessoal estamos tendo inúmeros relatos de clientes que não
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> estão
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> conseguindo se conectar na porta 25 em diversos de nossos
>>>>>>>>>>>> servidores,
>>>>>>>>>>>> em
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular temos que todos são clientes GVT.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Provavelmente a GVT bloqueou a porta 25 porém não existe
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> nenhum
>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> comunicado
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> oficial nem nada do tipo!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Estamos no interior do Paraná, mais alguém com esta situação?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Grande Abraço e Sucesso
>>>>>>>>>>>> Anselmo Luiz Éden Battisti
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>>>
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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