[MASOCH-L] Bloqueio de SPAM via grupos Outlook/Microsoft

Fabio Martins fm+regbr+masoch-l+list at phosphorusnetworks.com
Sat Feb 20 23:46:26 -03 2021


Obrigado pela resposta Danton, mas acredito que o grupo seja legítimo - 
o uso que não.
O que me surpreende é o fato de não haver a tal opção de "unsubscribe". 
Caso o grupo seja legítimo, a Microsoft tá dando mole (a meu ver) ao não 
incluir por padrão tal opção nos cabeçalhos, como é comum em listas de 
discussão (mailman por exemplo).

Seguem os cabeçalhos (recebido no gmail, pasta Inbox e não na pasta 
spam):

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Created at:    Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 10:39 PM (Delivered after 4 seconds)
 From:    Gonzalo Tejera <profegontejera at hotmail.com>
To:    "18t.t at groups.outlook.com" <18t.t at groups.outlook.com>
Subject:    HORARIO
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DKIM:    'PASS' with domain hotmail.com Learn more
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 From: Gonzalo Tejera <profegontejera at hotmail.com>
To: "18t.t at groups.outlook.com" <18t.t at groups.outlook.com>
Subject: HORARIO
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Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2021 01:39:14 +0000
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On 2021-02-20 21:24, Danton Nunes wrote:
On 20/02/2021 21:08, Fabio Martins wrote:
Boa noite,

Sabem informar se a Microsoft disponibiliza links de "unsubscribe" dos 
grupos de Outlook utilizados indevidamente para spam?

Ultimamente recebo emails com "Para:" esse formato:

To: "18t.t at groups.outlook.com" <18t.t at groups.outlook.com>

esses cabeçalhos podem conter qualquer porcaria, você tem que olhar
para o que veio no MAIL_FROM: do envelope, (cabeçalhos Return-Path: ou
Errors-To:). você vai ver que nem sempre são do mesmo domínio do From:
Aliás, envelope e From: de domínios diferentes já ganha alguns
pontinhos de "spamidade".

e uma inspeção dos cabeçalhos Received: vai te dar uma ideia do
caminho que a mensagem tomou.

Pesquisando na internet, não achei uma forma de "opt-out" para pedir a 
remoção de tais grupos, nem existe cabeçalho para tal - o que geralmente 
e boa prática em listas de discussão/grupos.

até porque pode ser que tais grupos nem mesmo existam!

-- Danton
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