[GTER] [lacnog] Mess up - IRR de prefixos brasileiros - EMIX(ChinaTel) - Neustar - Internexa

Carlos M. Martinez carlosm3011 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 4 11:39:52 -03 2020


Hi all,

Just a clarification: LACNIC’s IRR does support AS-SETs, but 
operators/users need to create them.

Our IRR is “mostly automatic” in the sense that route/route6 objects 
and maintainers are synthesized based on RPKI and WHOIS data.

However, unlike route/route6 and maintainers, our IRR cannot synthesize 
AS-SETs for our users.

Our IRR is still in its infancy (it has been in production for less than 
three months) but I hope when the word gets out we will see significant 
uptake of this tool.

If there are any specific, architectural or service questions regarding 
LACNIC’s IRR please refer directly to us LACNIC staff.

Cheers!

/Carlos

On 3 Mar 2020, at 9:00, Arturo Servin wrote:

> Douglas
>
> Thanks for getting this stats and bringing awareness that there is a 
> lot to
> do in LATAM.
>
> I have these stats that I have presented in some fora in the past few
> months, these represent the percentage of valid prefixes (according to 
> IRR
> data.) As you can see LATAM (69.11%) is way behind the rest of the 
> regions
> and the global average of 86%.We are working to include LACNIC IRR so 
> stats
> might improve soon but I am not sure how much as the IRR does not have
> AS-SETs and I would bet that a good chunk of invalid are coming from 
> ASs
> that provide transit services to other ASNs (so AS-origin is not 
> enough to
> validate.)
>
> [image: Initial Experiences Route Filtering at the Edge AS15169.png]
>
> Some places to check your prefixes:
>
>    - IRR Explorer NLNOG: http://irrexplorer.nlnog.net/
>    - RIPE RIS Routing Consistency:
>    https://stat.ripe.net/widget/as-routing-consistency
>
>
> Finally, Google is in the process to start filtering all invalid 
> prefixes
> that do not match any IRR entry, so I recommend that if you peer with
> AS15169 you take a look if your prefixes are validated (Google ISP 
> Portal
> https://isp.google.com/bgp/ and check your AS-SET in PeeringDB)
>
> Regards
> as
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 9:39 PM Douglas Fischer 
> <fischerdouglas at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Acabei de criar mais uma visão sumarizada de quem está criando 
>> sujeira nos
>> IRRs, especificamente nos prefixos brasileiros.
>>  ->
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1RXqzCP2uN-dZ1hRkridm4EBg4_6tYC09Y8ZAW68JSf8/
>> Esse arquivo nos mostra or Objetos IRR Route: e Route6: classificados 
>> com
>> INVALID e UNEEDED em 2020-03-01
>>
>> O 5 maintainers que mais tem criados registros INVALID de prefixos BR 
>> são:
>> Maint          | Name                   | INVALID | UNEEDED |
>> MAINT-AS8966   | Emirates IX - ChinaTel |    2511 |       2 |
>> MAINT-AS7786   | NeuStar                |     887 |         |
>> MAINT-AS18678  | Internexa              |     670 |     605 |
>> MAINT-SAMM     | SAMM CCR               |     140 |      80 |
>> MAINT-NRT-BB   | NOROESTECOM            |      60 |       3 |
>>
>> P.S.:
>> Procedimento de como se chegou a essas informações detalhado nessa 
>> troca
>> de e-mail
>> https://mail.lacnic.net/pipermail/lacnog/2020-February/007809.html
>>
>>
>> Eu preciso agradecer e parabenizar as equipes das empresas:
>>  - G8 Networks
>>  - Nexusguard
>> Desde a análise que eu havia feito no dia 13-Feb-2019 [1] tive a
>> oportunidade de conversar com pessoas dessas duas empresas, e eles 
>> fizeram
>> esforços e corrigiram/eliminaram grande parte dos registros 
>> incorretos que
>> eles haviam criados.
>> Esta, em minha opinião, deve ser a postura de operadores de rede. 
>> Estando
>> abertos a informações, validando, e corrigindo se cabível.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XxUI2_JcKgkg5CniRi1E3ieEu9HgRJCfYfaH3hTIaHg/
>>
>> --
>> Douglas Fernando Fischer
>> Engº de Controle e Automação
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