[GTER] Usuários Accel-ppp, contato para troca de experiências
Osvaldo T Crispim Filho
osvaldotcf at gmail.com
Wed Nov 11 13:39:34 -02 2015
Comprei um ER-Lite (R$ 280,00) e vou testar o uso dele como
autenticador/roteador para os pops; minha ideia é unificar a operação de
rádio e cabo usando IPoE e "client vlan" em lugar de PPPoE e usar o ERL
como concentrador IPoE. Preciso testar o que ele aguenta de
tráfego/clientes.
https://accel-ppp.org/wiki/doku.php?id=compilation
https://gist.github.com/fgrep/39279d81d135d1ce40de
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/PPPoE-performance-trying-accel-ppp/td-p/676925/page/7
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/How-to-install-OLSR-on-EdgeRouter/m-p/586515#M15779
https://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/kernel-compilation/m-p/466677
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/205146110-EdgeMAX-Upgrading-EdgeOS-firmware
http://community.ubnt.com/t5/EdgeMAX/Kernel-rebuild-step-by-step/td-p/523707
Em 29 de maio de 2015 11:53, Osvaldo T Crispim Filho <osvaldotcf at gmail.com>
escreveu:
> Como ti disse eu não cheguei a testar.
> Nos rádios não vai ter muito o que fazer, é só colocar em dhcp e
> configurar vlan como vc projetar
>
> Em 29 de maio de 2015 10:06, Bruno Vane <broonu at gmail.com> escreveu:
>
>> Osvaldo,
>>
>> Estou usando aqui accel-ppp para PPPoE, mas estou vendo vários relatos
>> positivos com IPoE e estou pensando em fazer testes na rede de rádios, mas
>> estou bem perdido em relação à configuração do mesmo. Pode me passar
>> alguns
>> links que você tenha das configurações iniciais com IPoE?
>>
>> Em 29 de maio de 2015 01:12, Osvaldo T Crispim Filho <
>> osvaldotcf at gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>> > Ainda não, mas não teria problema. aliás acho que seria bem fácil e
>> seguro.
>> > No mundo do rádio não faz sentido falar em multicast/broadcast daí com o
>> > wpa-eap mais o ip unumbered ou vlan "on-demand" você tem uma rede para
>> lá
>> > de segura mais o AAA proporcionado pelo accel.
>> >
>> > Em 28 de maio de 2015 14:45, Bruno Vane <broonu at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> >
>> > > Pessoal, alguém aí usando IPoE em rede wireless? Osvaldo, vi alguns
>> posts
>> > > seus lá no forum perguntando especificamente sobre como usar o IPoE na
>> > rede
>> > > de rádios L2, já testou nessa infra?
>> > >
>> > > Em 14 de maio de 2015 15:27, Marco Aurelio da Silva <
>> marco at lpnet.com.br>
>> > > escreveu:
>> > >
>> > > > Ricardo,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Estamos iniciando os testes com IPV6. Assim que obter os resultados
>> > posto
>> > > > aqui.
>> > > > O dia que estiver passando por Lençóis, faça-nos uma visita também,
>> > será
>> > > > muito bem vindo.
>> > > >
>> > > > Marcelo,
>> > > >
>> > > > Nunca usei Mikrotik nos concentradores, eu usava rp-pppoe.
>> > > > Quando migramos, optei por user os parâmetros do accel no formato
>> > cisco.
>> > > > Não tivemos nenhum problema em adaptar nossa base.
>> > > >
>> > > > Quanto ao problema de Soft-Irq, no kernel 3.2 que usamos, nunca
>> tivemos
>> > > > problema.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Abraços,
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Marco.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > > Em 14/05/2015, à(s) 11:38, Ricardo Oliveira <
>> ricardo.btu at gmail.com>
>> > > > escreveu:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Bruno, uma ONU roteada ou em bridge e um equipamento que suporte
>> > DHCP.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Marco, que bom ler um relato desses, não imaginava que o Accel-PPP
>> > > > escalava
>> > > > > tanto assim, chegou a fazer algum teste com IPv6 em Dual-Stack?
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Quando estiver passando por Bauru, da um toque para tomarmos um
>> café.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Obrigado.
>> > > > > Ricardo Freitas.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Em 14 de maio de 2015 10:06, Marco Aurelio da Silva <
>> > > marco at lpnet.com.br>
>> > > > > escreveu:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Ricardo e Renan,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Também trabalhamos com o Accel a cerca de 1 ano em nossa rede e
>> > posso
>> > > > dar
>> > > > >> relatos de estabilidade e escala impressionantes.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Usamos R210 com 8G de RAM e temos maquinas com 3000 sessões
>> ativas e
>> > > > >> tráfego na casa dos 800M sem nenhum problema.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Ricardo, estamos bem perto de vocês ai, se precisar trocar
>> > > experiências,
>> > > > >> fique a vontade, somos concorrentes mas não inimigos.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Abraços,
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> Marco.
>> > > > >>> Em 13/05/2015, à(s) 08:40, Ricardo Oliveira <
>> ricardo.btu at gmail.com
>> > >
>> > > > >> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Renan estou usando em nossa rede PON a cerca de 2 meses, nenhum
>> > > > problema
>> > > > >>> até o presente momento, são cerca de 300 clientes com planos
>> entre
>> > > > 6Mbps
>> > > > >> e
>> > > > >>> 200Mbps, o tráfego no pico alcançando 230Mbps, sem problemas de
>> > > > Soft-IRQ
>> > > > >> e
>> > > > >>> processamento, o software parece ser muito bem escrito e até
>> agora
>> > > está
>> > > > >>> cumprindo 100% do que promete, estamos rodando em server Dell
>> 1950
>> > > > Xeon 1
>> > > > >>> Socket com quatro Core, 4GB RAM e NICs Broadcom (Não tinha Intel
>> > > > >> disponível
>> > > > >>> rsrs) com Debian 7.8 (Wheezy), recomendo mais memoria, por aqui
>> > está
>> > > > >> quase
>> > > > >>> no limite.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Obrigado.
>> > > > >>> Ricardo Freitas.
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>> Em 12 de maio de 2015 11:39, Renan Rodrigues <
>> > > > >> renan.rodrigues at i-next.psi.br>
>> > > > >>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>
>> > > > >>>> Pesoal, vocês continuam testando o IPoE? Se sim, como está os
>> > > testes?
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Att,
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Renan
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>> Em 23 de abril de 2015 12:15, Cesar Fazan <
>> cesar.fazan at gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Marcos,
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> O accel suporta basicamente qualquer nome de atributo no qual
>> o
>> > > > >>>>> valor/formato seja apenas Download/Upload.
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Ex: Mikrotik-Rate-Limit 1024/512
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Para isso você terá que copiar/criar o dicionário contendo o
>> > > atributo
>> > > > >>>>> a ser utilizado e informar ao accel-ppp o nome do atributo
>> > > > >>>>> No arquivo de configuração do accel:
>> > > > >>>>> [shaper]
>> > > > >>>>> attr=Mikrotik-Rate-Limit
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> Para os interessados no IPoE existe um outro projeto também de
>> > > > autoria
>> > > > >>>>> russa, mais simples, mas que talvez seja interessante.
>> > > > >>>>> https://bitbucket.org/sysoleg/lisg/wiki/Home
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>
>> > > > >>>>> 2015-04-23 11:10 GMT-03:00 Marcos Vinícius <
>> > > > >>>> marcos.sousa.morais at gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>> :
>> > > > >>>>>> Com relação ao Shaper do Accel-PPP...
>> > > > >>>>>> Alguns de vocês conseguiu fazer funcionar com o dicionário do
>> > > > >> Mikrotik?
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Eu to usando aqui, mas é com o padrão Cisco:
>> > > > >>>>>> *Cisco-AVPair=lcp:interface-config#1=rate-limit
>> > > > >>>>>> input 2000000 8000 8000 conform-action transmit exceed-action
>> > > drop*
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>> Em 20 de abril de 2015 19:36, Osvaldo T Crispim Filho <
>> > > > >>>>> osvaldotcf at gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Olha que legal, em L2: *vlans "automáticas"* e *ip unumbered
>> > > (/32)*
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> *Do forum:*
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> osvaldotcf wrote:At some point of information, I understood
>> > that
>> > > > the
>> > > > >>>>>>> accel-ppp would create VLANs as user configuration or use IP
>> > > > >>>> Unnumbered.
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Both your statements are true, but behavior depends of
>> context
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> yes, accel may brings up vlans for you, this function is
>> called
>> > > > "vlan
>> > > > >>>>>>> monitor", but it is utility function, to simplify your life
>> > > > >>>>>>> its function is monitoring some parent interface(s) and
>> look if
>> > > > there
>> > > > >>>> is
>> > > > >>>>>>> VLAN packets and automatically create and delete vlan
>> > interfaces
>> > > > >>>>>>> so it is useful if you have tons of vlans
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> IP unnumbered is supported too, in such case customer gets
>> IP
>> > > with
>> > > > >>>> mask,
>> > > > >>>>>>> but on server side accel creates /32 route and acts as arp
>> > proxy
>> > > > >>>>>>> but it is useful in L2 environment, not sure which way it
>> would
>> > > > work
>> > > > >>>> in
>> > > > >>>>> L3
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> *Ainda do forum, L3:*
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> in case of accel, usually Option 82 is identifier of
>> customer
>> > > (but
>> > > > it
>> > > > >>>>> can
>> > > > >>>>>>> be mac address too), so you have to construct predictable
>> > > Username
>> > > > by
>> > > > >>>>>>> extracting Option 82 data (accel provides functions for
>> that)
>> > > > >>>>>>> then accel may request Radius to authenticate and authorize
>> > this
>> > > > >>>>> Username
>> > > > >>>>>>> or may use local chap-secrets file
>> > > > >>>>>>> Radius may provide IP address fro customer or just
>> authenticate
>> > > it
>> > > > >> and
>> > > > >>>>> IP
>> > > > >>>>>>> will be allocated from static pool
>> > > > >>>>>>> if you used PPP before, almost same things are applied to
>> IPOE
>> > > > >>>>>>> if Radius rejects Username then customer doesn't get IP and
>> > can't
>> > > > >> work
>> > > > >>>>> in
>> > > > >>>>>>> your network
>> > > > >>>>>>> alternatively Radius may provide temporary IP, accel will
>> put
>> > it
>> > > > into
>> > > > >>>>> ipset
>> > > > >>>>>>> and you can setup http redirect to some informative or login
>> > page
>> > > > >>>> (this
>> > > > >>>>> is
>> > > > >>>>>>> called L4 redirect)
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> osvaldotcf wrote:In L3, the accel-ppp control authentication
>> > and
>> > > > >>>>> shapper or
>> > > > >>>>>>> anything else?
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> yes, mostly authentication and shapper
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Ainda do forum, em L3:
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> The Mikrotik RB, as accel-ppp relay (IPoE), will send the
>> > > > configured
>> > > > >>>> IP
>> > > > >>>>> on
>> > > > >>>>>>> RADIUS from accel-ppp to host1 and host2?yes, it is
>> > > > >>>>>>> my point of vision how it works:
>> > > > >>>>>>> 1. host sends DHCP Request
>> > > > >>>>>>> 2. rb mikrotik relays it to accel
>> > > > >>>>>>> 3. accel requests RADIUS
>> > > > >>>>>>> 4. if Access-Accept then sends DHCP Ack to host via rb
>> mikrotik
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>> Em 20 de abril de 2015 16:39, Marcos Vinícius <
>> > > > >>>>>>> marcos.sousa.morais at gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> Estou fazendo com JSF (com PrimeFaces)... pois não tenho
>> tempo
>> > > de
>> > > > >>>>> ficar
>> > > > >>>>>>>> preocupando demais com HTML/CSS/JavaScript e tal.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> O framework agiliza bastante o desenvolvimento :)
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> Em 20 de abril de 2015 15:33, Jonathan Falcão <
>> > > jocthbr at gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Interessante.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Ta montando a interface em q, Marcos?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> Em seg, 20 de abr de 2015 14:47, Osvaldo T Crispim Filho <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> osvaldotcf at gmail.com> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Na verdade me admiraria se vc tivesse! rsrsrs
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Pouquíssima informação.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> E isto torna a coisa ótima para TCC, tenho uma mono pra
>> pós
>> > e
>> > > > >>>> vou
>> > > > >>>>>>> fazer
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> sobre ele.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Ele é pouco conhecido aqui mas muito usado na Russia e a
>> > > > >>>> proposta
>> > > > >>>>> é
>> > > > >>>>>>> bem
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> interessante.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> As vantagens do PPPoE sem sair do mundo IP!
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> Em 20 de abril de 2015 13:11, Marcos Vinícius <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> marcos.sousa.morais at gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Pra falar a verdade... não tenho experiência nenhuma com
>> > > IPoE,
>> > > > >>>>> acho
>> > > > >>>>>>>> que
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> não
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> vou ajudar muito hehe
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> Em 20 de abril de 2015 11:47, Osvaldo T Crispim Filho <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> osvaldotcf at gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Já que é um TCC, não gostaria de entrarmos em uma nova
>> > > > >>>> seara?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Eu e o Ricardo Oliveira estamos montando laboratórios
>> > para
>> > > > >>>>> IPoE
>> > > > >>>>>>> em
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> rede
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> roteada.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Nosso estagiário em desenvolvimento está estudando o
>> > código
>> > > > >>>>> para
>> > > > >>>>>>>> ver
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> se
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> ele
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> consegue trabalhar com o mesmo, caso seja necessário
>> para
>> > > > >>>>>>> correções
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> ou
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> "workaround" de última hora, afinal o accel-ppp será
>> > critico
>> > > > >>>>>>> demais
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> para
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> nos deixar na mão.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Que que você acha de montar um laboratório para o IPoE?
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> Em 20 de abril de 2015 08:20, Marcos Vinícius <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> marcos.sousa.morais at gmail.com
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Osvaldo,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tenho interesse em trocar informações a respeito do
>> > > > >>>>> Accel-PPP,
>> > > > >>>>>>>> pois
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> estou
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> começando a desenvolver uma interface gráfica que
>> > > > >>>>> possibilitara
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> realizar
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> as
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> funcionalidades básicas semelhantes a do Mikrotik no
>> que
>> > > > >>>> se
>> > > > >>>>>>>> refere
>> > > > >>>>>>>>> a
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> conexões PPPoE, porque utilizar o Accel-PPP em um
>> > ambiente
>> > > > >>>>> em
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> produção
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> somente via linha de comando fica complicado para o
>> > > > >>>> pessoal
>> > > > >>>>> do
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> suporte
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> técnico.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> No caso ainda vai demorar para ficar pronto... pois
>> > > > >>>>> trata-se de
>> > > > >>>>>>>> um
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>> trabalho
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> para conclusão de curso, mas já realizei a
>> configuração e
>> > > > >>>>>>> alguns
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>> teste
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>> no
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Accel-PPP e estou disposto a ajudar no que eu souber.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Att,
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcos
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 18 de abril de 2015 13:59, Osvaldo T Crispim Filho
>> <
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> osvaldotcf at gmail.com>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gostaria de contatar o pessoal que está usando ou
>> pensa
>> > > > >>>> em
>> > > > >>>>>>>> usar o
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> accel-ppp.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Como boa parte da informação está em russo, seria
>> > > > >>>>>>> interessante
>> > > > >>>>>>>> e
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>> aumentaria
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> a segurança a troca de experiências entre
>> brasileiros.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quem tiver interesse por favor entre em contato.
>> > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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