[GTER] RES: RES: RES: PTT-SP - Participantes prendendo rotas recebidas no ATM?
Rodrigo Augusto
rodrigo at 1telecom.com.br
Fri Aug 31 16:18:21 -03 2012
Fizemos o mesmo por aqui Gustavo....sao excelentes......
-----Mensagem original-----
De: gter [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] Em nome de Gustavo Santos
Enviada em: sexta-feira, 31 de agosto de 2012 15:58
Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes
Assunto: Re: [GTER] RES: RES: PTT-SP - Participantes prendendo rotas
recebidas no ATM?
Rubens , até o momento nada, e por sinal nunca responderam os chamados que
abri sobre o problema.... Se bem que não saberei responder se algum dia
eles resolverem, pois, estou de Juniper agora. E a caixa (MX) pelo menos
até agora foi " set it and forget it"...
Gustavo Santos
Analista de Redes
CCNA , MTCNA , MTCRE, MTCINE, JUNCIA-ER
Em 31 de agosto de 2012 12:08, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at gmail.com> escreveu:
> Houve alguma versão em que você tenha notado melhora desse comportamento ?
>
>
> Rubens
>
>
> 2012/8/31 Gustavo Santos <gustkiller at gmail.com>:
> > Esta com cara do velho BUG do Mikrotik de stuck routes.. Não adianta dar
> > refresh em tabela... Só resolve dando boot ou quando se tem sorte,
> > desativando e reativando a interface que está o destino da rota presa..
> >
> > Gustavo Santos
> > Analista de Redes
> > CCNA , MTCNA , MTCRE, MTCINE, JUNCIA-ER
> >
> >
> >
> > Em 30 de agosto de 2012 18:14, Rinaldo Vaz <rinaldo at anid.com.br>
> escreveu:
> >
> >> Provavelmente sim, pelo comportamento que ele citou dos
"route-refreshs"
> >> não funcionarem.(só com o reboot)
> >>
> >> Em 30 de agosto de 2012 18:00, Lucas Willian Bocchi
> >> <lucas.bocchi at gmail.com>escreveu:
> >>
> >> > Será que pode ter algo a ver com esse relato?
> >> >
> >> > http://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=57690
> >> >
> >> > Em 30 de agosto de 2012 16:47, Rinaldo Vaz <rinaldo at anid.com.br>
> >> escreveu:
> >> > > Rinaldo, segue!
> >> > >
> >> > > [xxxxxxxxx at Router Borda] > /ip route print detail where
> >> > > dst-addres=177.46.1.0/24
> >> > > Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, C - connect, S -
> static,
> >> r
> >> > -
> >> > > rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P
-
> >> > > prohibit
> >> > > [xxxxxxxxxxxx at Router Borda] >
> >> > >
> >> > > Raul,
> >> > > Obrigado pela informação. Já que essa rota não está mais disponível
> em
> >> > sua
> >> > > FIB, o seu Mikrotik deveria informar para todos os seus BGPs
> (internos
> >> e
> >> > > externos) que essa rota deve ser removida. Mas não é o que está
> >> > acontecendo
> >> > > já que o Looking Glass continua recebendo de você...
> >> > >
> >> > > *lg.sp.ptt.br$ sh ip bgp 177.46.1.0/24*
> >> > > BGP routing table entry for 177.46.1.0/24
> >> > > Paths: (11 available, best #11, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
> >> > > Not advertised to any peer
> >> > > * 262828 28135*
> >> > > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.93 (192.168.60.129)
> >> > > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > > Last update: Thu Aug 30 16:22:13 2012
> >> > >
> >> > > Se você tiver outras sessões BGP além do LG, provavelmente esses
> caras
> >> > > continuam recebendo a rota para 177.46.1.0/24
> >> > >
> >> > > ######################
> >> > >
> >> > > Há muito tempo que notamos o referido problema ocorrendo em nosso
> iBGP
> >> > > e temos trabalhado para resolver o caso.
> >> > >
> >> > > Naturalmente leva tempo substituir os roteadores envolvidos por
> >> > > produtos mais competentes, mas no momento creio que um refresh
> >> > > periódico das sessões de BGP é a uma solução paleativa necessária.
> >> > >
> >> > > A propósito, o prefixo em questão não foi encontrado através do
> >> > > mencionado comando do RouterOS. Mesmo assim, periodicamente
> refazemos
> >> > > nossas sessões de iBGP para dar conta de reclamações internas do
AS.
> >> > > Agora receio que mesmo as sessões externas precisam ser refeitas
> >> > > periodicamente.
> >> > >
> >> > > Ricardo,
> >> > >
> >> > > Tive problemas relativamente sério quando ainda estava usando
> mikrotik.
> >> > Meu
> >> > > transporte até Campina Grande caiu juntamente com a sessão IBGP. O
> site
> >> > da
> >> > > ANID fica hospedado no meu POP de Campina Grande. Após a queda do
> >> link, o
> >> > > meu roteador Mikrotik de borda com PTT-SP teve essa rota removida
de
> >> sua
> >> > > FIB, porém, "esqueceu" de informar aos route-servers que essa rota
> não
> >> > > estava mais acessíveis.
> >> > >
> >> > > A consequência dessa falha foi que todos os participantes do ATM
> >> > > simplesmente não conseguiam mais abrir o site da ANID. E o pior de
> tudo
> >> > foi
> >> > > que depois de muitas horas só fiquei sabendo quando o Rodrigo da
> >> 1telecom
> >> > > me ligou avisando.
> >> > >
> >> > > Depois disso decidi que era hora de deixar o Mikrotik apenas como
> >> backup
> >> > no
> >> > > ATM já que participo em 2 PIXes. (alog e tivit)
> >> > >
> >> > > abs
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Em 30 de agosto de 2012 16:10, Raul Olive <raul at novonet.com.br>
> >> > escreveu:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Rinaldo, segue!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> [xxxxxxxxx at Router Borda] > /ip route print detail where
> >> > >> dst-addres=177.46.1.0/24
> >> > >> Flags: X - disabled, A - active, D - dynamic, C - connect, S -
> static,
> >> > r -
> >> > >> rip, b - bgp, o - ospf, m - mme, B - blackhole, U - unreachable, P
> -
> >> > >> prohibit
> >> > >> [xxxxxxxxxxxx at Router Borda] >
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Atenciosamente,
> >> > >> Raul Olive Eler
> >> > >> raul at novonet.com.br
> >> > >> Gerente de Tecnologia e Projetos
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> -----Mensagem original-----
> >> > >> De: gter [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] Em nome de Rinaldo
> Vaz
> >> > >> Enviada em: quinta-feira, 30 de agosto de 2012 15:48
> >> > >> Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes
> >> > >> Assunto: Re: [GTER] RES: PTT-SP - Participantes prendendo rotas
> >> > recebidas
> >> > >> no
> >> > >> ATM?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Boa tarde Raul,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Acredito que essa rota ainda esteja sendo considerada "acessível"
> >> para o
> >> > >> seu
> >> > >> Mikrotik
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Por favor, qual o resultado do comando:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> /ip route print detail where dst-addres=177.46.1.0/24
> >> > >>
> >> > >> ?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Abs
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Em 30 de agosto de 2012 15:38, Raul Olive <raul at novonet.com.br>
> >> > escreveu:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Rinaldo, boa tarde.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > AS262828 é nosso, usamos sim RB com mikrotik 5.19
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Atenciosamente,
> >> > >> > Raul Olive Eler
> >> > >> > raul at novonet.com.br
> >> > >> > Gerente de Tecnologia e Projetos
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > -----Mensagem original-----
> >> > >> > De: gter [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] Em nome de
> Rinaldo
> >> Vaz
> >> > >> > Enviada em: quinta-feira, 30 de agosto de 2012 15:11
> >> > >> > Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes;
> Percival
> >> > >> > ANID
> >> > >> > Assunto: [GTER] PTT-SP - Participantes prendendo rotas recebidas
> no
> >> > ATM?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Boa tarde à todos,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Tenho percebido nos últimos meses comportamentos muito
estranhos,
> >> onde
> >> > >> > algumas redes simplesmente param de funcionar via PTT-SP, e
tenho
> >> > >> > motivos para acreditar que comportamentos anormais de alguns
> >> Mikrotiks
> >> > >> > estão sendo a causa de alguns desses problemas onde redes param
> de
> >> > >> > funcionar via ATM do PTT-SP
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Fiz hoje uma experiência anunciando para o ATM o prefixo
> >> > >> > *177.46.1.0/24*
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Primeiro chequei no LOOKING GLASS do PTT-SP que o prefixo
> >> > >> > 177.46.1.0/24não <http://177.46.1.0/24n%C3%A3o> <
> http://177.46.1.0/24n%C3%A3o> <
> >> http://177.46.1.0/24n%C3%A3o> <
> >> > http://177.46.1.0/24n%C3%A3o> existia na FIB de
> >> > >> nenhum participante:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > lg.sp.ptt.br$ sh ip bgp 177.46.1.0/24
> >> > >> > *% Network not in table*
> >> > >> > lg.sp.ptt.br$
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Após liberar o novo prefixo nos meus filtros passamos a
> anuncia-lo
> >> no
> >> > >> ATM:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > BGP routing table entry for *177.46.1.0/24*
> >> > >> > Paths: (1 available, best #1, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
> >> > >> > Advertised to non peer-group peers:
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.252 *187.16.216.253 187.16.216.254*
> >> > >> > Local
> >> > >> > 0.0.0.0 from 0.0.0.0 (201.20.36.146)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, weight 32768, valid,
> >> > >> > sourced, local, best
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 14:10:19 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Notem nos campos em negrito que estou anunciando
177.46.1.0/24para
> >> > LG
> >> > >> > e os dois route-servers e consequentemente, todos os
> participantes
> >> que
> >> > >> > estabelecem BGP com o LG passaram a informar conforme print
> abaixo:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Consequentemente, esse é a visão do Looking Glass:
> >> > >> > *
> >> > >> > lg.sp.ptt.br$ sh ip bgp 177.46.1.0/24* BGP routing table entry
> for
> >> > >> > 177.46.1.0/24
> >> > >> > Paths: (83 available, best #83, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
> >> > >> > Not advertised to any peer
> >> > >> > 10954 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.28 (189.9.64.127)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:10 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53070 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.102 (187.86.223.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 53070:4000
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:10 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28288 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.124 (189.28.192.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:08 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 10954 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.33 (192.168.10.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:08 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28140 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.193 (187.49.32.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:08 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262518 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.65 (177.67.116.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:07 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 7048 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.37 (192.168.0.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:07 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28620 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.175 (201.55.136.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:06 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28272 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.58 (200.219.202.220)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:05 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 10362 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.84 (200.218.20.193)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:05 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28280 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.148 (201.33.240.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28280:300
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:02 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28262 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.212 from 187.16.216.212 (187.17.32.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:02 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 27693 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.86 (189.127.15.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:00 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53069 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.238 (187.86.192.5)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:59 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28208 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.34 (186.226.45.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28208:101
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:59 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53116 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.128 (187.110.1.18)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:58 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53116 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.127 (187.110.1.17)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:58 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 27715 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.164 (186.202.44.2)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:56 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28275 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.27 (172.28.7.179)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:55 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262518 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.66 (177.67.112.253)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:55 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28287 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.169 (201.49.207.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28287:9055
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:54 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 16736 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.130 (200.229.24.2)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:53 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28218 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.172 (189.124.0.32)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:52 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28143 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.19 from 187.16.217.19 (187.49.97.2)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:51 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28634 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.209 (201.62.64.252)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:51 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28173 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.4 (187.16.217.4)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:49 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28634 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.131 (201.62.64.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:45 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53144 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.133 from 187.16.216.133 (187.103.64.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:43 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53075 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.188 (187.94.16.255)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:43 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 14840 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.219 (186.211.128.32)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 14840:10 14840:40 14840:7110
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:42 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53080 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.215 (187.95.0.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:41 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262757 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.104 (186.224.111.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:49 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.253 (187.16.216.253)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:41 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53242 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.112 from 187.16.217.112 (177.21.0.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:57 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262828 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.93 (192.168.60.129)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:53 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262476 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.207 (187.16.217.207)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:58 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 22548 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.17 from 187.16.217.17 (200.160.0.133)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262855 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.31 from 187.16.217.31 (177.12.192.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:49 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28598 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.15 (176.52.253.50)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28598:100
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53165 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.173 (186.216.240.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:59 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 14026 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.166 (187.16.217.166)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262354 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.129 (177.125.211.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28654 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.116 from 187.16.217.116 (201.77.128.65)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28654:103
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:46 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28169 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.131 (187.63.160.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:41 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 11835 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.72 (200.192.248.2)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 11835:1310
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28343 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.32 from 187.16.217.32 (189.45.192.65)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28126 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.23 (187.19.145.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 8055 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.6 (200.160.48.10)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 8055:64548 8055:65533
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28143 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.18 from 187.16.217.18 (187.49.97.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28168 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.184 from 187.16.216.184 (187.63.239.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:41 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28580 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.76 (200.187.80.244)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28647 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.114 (201.76.224.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28272 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.57 (200.219.202.219)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262561 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.152 (177.71.64.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:57 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 22431 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.26 (201.71.59.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:49 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.254 (187.16.216.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262471 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.53 (177.53.155.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262659 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.183 (187.85.0.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28289 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.104 (189.36.224.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28289:65506
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:39 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28165 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.75 (187.62.208.5)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53018 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.200 (177.72.128.249)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:54 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262420 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.11 (186.219.96.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:17:09 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28263 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.156 (187.16.217.156)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:38 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28328 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.141 (189.14.223.6)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:38 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 14026 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.56 (187.16.216.56)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:47 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262728 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.92 (186.192.100.29)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:37 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53131 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.158 from 187.16.217.158 (187.121.192.5)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 53131:65502
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:37 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53102 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.113 (187.103.160.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:36 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28238 28347 28135
> >> > >> > 189.51.32.1 from 187.16.217.69 (186.216.224.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28347:1000
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:36 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28186 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.160 (189.89.130.255)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28186:20
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 1916 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.4 (200.143.254.62)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 1916:1250
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 52869 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.46 from 187.16.217.46 (177.128.64.0)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 1251 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.189 from 187.16.216.189 (200.136.37.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:38 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53184 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.162 (186.232.48.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53104 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.192 (187.108.64.10)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262485 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.174 (177.66.0.25)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28571 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.20 (143.107.255.15)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53224 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.91 from 187.16.217.91 (186.251.112.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 22689 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.118 (200.155.33.4)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 22689:1111
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28124 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.72 (187.19.14.253)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28124:1001
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53119 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.10 (200.192.108.28)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262750 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.14 (10.255.254.2)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:34 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.108 (201.20.36.146)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, metric 0, localpref 100, valid, external, best
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:06:01 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Até aí tudo praticamente normal, exceto por alguns "next-hops"
> que
> >> > >> > estão diferentes do meu IP (.108), mas isso provavelmente se dá
> que
> >> > >> > estão utilizando uma configuração equivalente ao "next-hop-self"
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Agora, removo esse anúncio do ATM:
> >> > >> > Percebam no meu debug que meu router "pediu educadamente" para
os
> >> > >> > route-servers removerem essa rede:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > *2012/08/30 14:33:39 BGP: 187.16.216.253 send UPDATE
> 177.46.1.0/24--
> >> > >> > unreachable*
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Para reforçar, esse comando mostra que esse prefixo não se
> encontra
> >> > >> > mais NEM MESMO NA MINHA FIB:
> >> > >> > *BGPD-ANID-ALOG-SP# sh ip bgp 177.46.1.0/24* % Network not in
> table
> >> > >> > BGPD-ANID-ALOG-SP#
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 8 minutos após ter notificado aos route-servers que essa rede
> >> deveria
> >> > >> > ter sido removida, eis o resultado da mesma consulta no Looking
> >> Glass:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > *lg.sp.ptt.br$ sh ip bgp 177.46.1.0/24* BGP routing table entry
> for
> >> > >> > 177.46.1.0/24
> >> > >> > Paths: (14 available, best #14, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
> >> > >> > Not advertised to any peer
> >> > >> > 28263 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.156 (187.16.217.156)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:34:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262757 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.104 (186.224.111.254)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:49 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262828 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.93 (192.168.60.129)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:53 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262855 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.31 from 187.16.217.31 (177.12.192.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:49 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262471 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.53 (177.53.155.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:40 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28289 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.104 (189.36.224.1)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28289:65506
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:39 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262728 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.92 (186.192.100.29)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:37 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53131 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.158 from 187.16.217.158 (187.121.192.5)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 53131:65502
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:37 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28186 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.160 (189.89.130.255)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Community: 28186:20
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 52869 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.46 from 187.16.217.46 (177.128.64.0)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53104 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.192 (187.108.64.10)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262485 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.174 (177.66.0.25)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 53119 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.216.10 (200.192.108.28)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:35 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 262750 28135
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.108 from 187.16.217.14 (10.255.254.2)
> >> > >> > Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external, best
> >> > >> > Last update: Thu Aug 30 13:16:34 2012
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > -Ainda existem 14 roteadores que "acreditam" que *177.46.1.0/24*
> >> > >> > continua acessível via *187.16.216.108(ANID)* -Após 13 minutos
os
> >> > >> > mesmos 14 routers continuavam do mesmo jeito.
> >> > >> > -Após mais de meia hora esses routers continuam com a rota
> "presa"
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Analisando o MAC, posso afirmar com precisão que desses 14
> >> > >> > routeadores, 4 são RouterBoards, embora os outros MAC's sejam
> >> > >> > aparentemente de placas de Rede Intel, HP, e que outros eu não
> >> > consegui
> >> > >> identificar o fabricante.
> >> > >> > Ou seja, tenho motivos para acreditar que todos esses 14 routers
> >> estão
> >> > >> > rodando o RouterOS da Mikrotik devido ao comportamento típico de
> >> > >> > "prender rotas"
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.10 *00:0C:42*:43:77:6F vlan10-pttsp
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.192 *00:0C:42*:40:95:8C vlan10-pttsp
> >> > >> > 187.16.216.104 *00:0C:42*:4A:72:7C vlan10-pttsp
> >> > >> > 187.16.217.93 *00:0C:42*:BC:5D:22 vlan10-pttsp
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > E desses 4, o host 187.16.216.104 (AS262757) está até o dia de
> hoje
> >> > >> > anunciando os BOGONS recebidos da ANID, que já foram corrigidos
a
> >> > >> > vários dias, e mesmo assim, o anúncio de BOGONS permanece.
> >> > >> > Felizmente, os BOGONS não vai deixar absolutamente nenhuma rede,
> ou
> >> > >> > site indisponível. O que é realmente preocupante, é que esses 14
> >> AS's
> >> > >> > participantes estão aparentemente "prendendo rotas", e isso na
> >> > >> > prática, significa que qualquer um que faça anúncios para o ATM,
> e
> >> > >> > posteriormente decida deixar de anunciar, esses 14 AS's (e todos
> os
> >> > >> > AS's e clientes atrás
> >> > >> > deles) deixarão de se comunicar com as redes que foram
removidas.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Peço ao responsável pelo *AS262757* que efetue um route-refresh,
> ou
> >> se
> >> > >> > possível um reboot em sua RouterBorard
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Alguém aqui é responsável por um desses 14 AS's poderia
> confirmar se
> >> > >> > está utilizando RouterOS Mikrotik e em qual versão?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > 28263
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> ,262757,262828,262855,262471,28289,262728,53131,28186,52869,53104,2624
> >> > >> > 85,531
> >> > >> > 19,262750
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Abs
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Rinaldo Vaz
> >> > >> > Chefe de operações do NOC
> >> > >> > Associação Nacional para Inclusão Digital Tim - 083 99975736
> INOC -
> >> > >> > 28135*100
> >> > >> > --
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> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > --
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> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Rinaldo Vaz
> >> > >> Chefe de operações do NOC
> >> > >> Associação Nacional para Inclusão Digital Tim - 083 99975736 INOC
-
> >> > >> 28135*100
> >> > >> --
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> >> > >> --
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> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Rinaldo Vaz
> >> > > Chefe de operações do NOC
> >> > > Associação Nacional para Inclusão Digital
> >> > > Tim - 083 99975736
> >> > > INOC - 28135*100
> >> > > --
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >> Rinaldo Vaz
> >> Chefe de operações do NOC
> >> Associação Nacional para Inclusão Digital
> >> Tim - 083 99975736
> >> INOC - 28135*100
> >> --
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