[GTER] PTT-SP estranho

Antonio Carlos Pina antoniocarlospina at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 09:58:54 -03 2009


Também temos a mesma experiência com a OI. Nada a reclamar.

Abs
Pina


On 28/08/2009, at 08:55, Gustavo Santos <gustkiller at gmail.com> wrote:

> Isto é bem relativo, se olhar o historico da gter é a operadora que  
> menos
> tem reclamação dos membros daqui. Pelo menos em ssa a rede da Oi é
> excelente. Tinhamos diversos circuitos com a EBT, depois de migrar  
> pra Oi. A
> dor de cabeça passou, e os circuitos  seriais que sobraram vira e me 
> xe tem
> problemas.
>
> PS: não sou funcionário da Oi.
>
> 2009/8/27 Alex Weyer <alex.weyer at gmail.com>
>
>> Sim sim.
>>
>> Na empresa de um colega meu aqui de POA também acontece a mesma co 
>> isa,
>> saindo pela Oi (tudo bem, a Oi não é parâmetro hehehe). E somente  
>> quando
>> bate na Embratel acontece isso.
>>
>> Por causa deste detalhe achei estranho....
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>> 2009/8/27 Juliano Primavesi - Cyberweb Networks <juliano at cyberweb.com.br 
>> >
>>
>>>
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>> 150ms é o tempo de resposta entre o roteador e a tua rede... para
>> verificar
>>> o problema, só dando um tracert reverso (partindo da rede da Emb 
>>> ratel
>> para a
>>> tua).
>>>
>>> Juliano
>>>
>>> Alex Weyer escreveu:
>>>
>>> Estranho....
>>>>
>>>> aqui de POA saindo pela GVT (ADSL 10mb) fica assim:
>>>>
>>>> Rastreando a rota para youtube-ui.l.google.com [64.233.163.100]
>>>> com no m ximo 30 saltos:
>>>>
>>>> 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  firewall [10.0.0.10]
>>>> 2     *        *        *     Esgotado o tempo limite do pedido.
>>>> 3     6 ms     7 ms     5 ms  gvt-ae-2-5-rd01.pae.gvt.net.br
>>>> [200.175.89.129]
>>>> 4     6 ms     9 ms     6 ms  gvt-host.gvt.net.br [189.59.252.173]
>>>> 5    20 ms    20 ms    21 ms  gvt-po-7-1-0-rc02.spo.gvt.net.br
>>>> [189.59.248.9]
>>>> 6    20 ms    20 ms     *     gvt-ge-0-0-0-rc01.spo.gvt.net.br
>>>> [189.59.248.1]
>>>> 7     *       21 ms     *     209.85.250.246
>>>> 8    21 ms    21 ms    21 ms  72.14.233.95
>>>> 9    21 ms    21 ms    26 ms  64.233.175.62
>>>> 10    22 ms    22 ms    33 ms  64.233.175.54
>>>> 11    22 ms    22 ms    21 ms  bs-in-f100.google.com [64.233.163.100 
>>>> ]
>>>>
>>>> Rastreamento conclu¡do.
>>>> -------------
>>>>
>>>> Agora pelo Virtua.....
>>>>
>>>> Rastreando a rota para youtube-ui.l.google.com [74.125.91.101]
>>>> com no m ximo 30 saltos:
>>>>
>>>> 1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  firewall [10.0.0.254]
>>>> 2    22 ms     9 ms    11 ms  xxxx.virtua.com.br [x.x.x.x]
>>>> 3     7 ms     8 ms     8 ms  ip50092.poa.virtua.com.br[200.213.50.92 
>>>> ]
>>>> 4    23 ms     9 ms     7 ms
>>>> embratel-G2-3-gacc01.pae.embratel.net.br[200.248.175.1]
>>>> 5   159 ms   157 ms   157 ms
>>>> ebt-T0-0-5-0-21-tcore01.pae.embratel.net.br[200.230.221.25]
>>>> 6   140 ms   145 ms   142 ms
>>>> ebt-T0-5-0-0-tcore01.cta.embratel.net.br[200.230.251.218]
>>>> 7   138 ms   137 ms   140 ms
>>>> ebt-t0-0-1-0-tcore01.spoph.embratel.net.br[200.230.252.110]
>>>> 8   141 ms   141 ms   142 ms
>>>> ebt-T0-3-5-0-tacc01.spo.embratel.net.br[200.230.252.102]
>>>> 9    26 ms    25 ms    25 ms  189.86.58.10
>>>> 10    26 ms    29 ms    32 ms  209.85.249.232
>>>> 11   146 ms   146 ms   148 ms  209.85.249.14
>>>> 12   148 ms   248 ms   150 ms  209.85.249.11
>>>> 13   165 ms   165 ms   162 ms  209.85.248.73
>>>> 14   160 ms   176 ms   161 ms  209.85.254.239
>>>> 15   163 ms   161 ms   163 ms  209.85.240.57
>>>> 16   162 ms   164 ms   163 ms  qy-in-f101.google.com  
>>>> [74.125.91.101]
>>>>
>>>> Rastreamento conclu¡do.
>>>> -------------
>>>> Aproveito para perguntar: alguém sabe de algum problema com a  
>>>> Embratel?
>> um
>>>> dos roteadores deles aqui de Porto Alegre (conforme dá pra ver no
>>>> traceroute) ta com 150ms! Acessando qualquer coisa que passe por  
>>>> eles
>> fica
>>>> um pouco mais lento do que antes. Principalmente meus sites  
>>>> hospedados
>> na
>>>> Locaweb (que fica em SP). Agora se saio pela GVT (e que não pa 
>>>> ssa pela
>>>> Embratel, pelo jeito) o acesso fica bem mais rapido.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> 2009/8/27 Antonio Carlos Pina <antoniocarlospina at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> A globalcrossing, talvez. O Youtube não.
>>>>> Aparentemente tem um "balanceamento" de links feito no caminho,  
>>>>> nos IPs
>>>>> 209.85.249.232 e 209.85.250.246. Fora isso, o anuncio está ok.
>>>>>
>>>>> apina at pa-sp:~$ traceroute www.youtube.com
>>>>> traceroute: Warning: www.youtube.com has multiple addresses; using
>>>>> 64.233.163.102
>>>>> traceroute to youtube-ui.l.google.com (64.233.163.102), 30 hops  
>>>>> max,
>> 40
>>>>> byte
>>>>> packets
>>>>> 1  static.200.198.191.9.datacenter1.com.br (200.198.191.9)   
>>>>> 130.640
>> ms
>>>>> 1.171 ms  6.109 ms
>>>>> 2  static.200.219.215.225.datacenter1.com.br (200.219.215.225)   
>>>>> 0.238
>>>>> ms
>>>>> 0.207 ms  0.242 ms
>>>>> 3  as15169.sp.ptt.br (200.219.130.55)  1.235 ms  1.205 ms  1.240  
>>>>> ms
>>>>> 4  209.85.249.232 (209.85.249.232)  1.114 ms  1.188 ms 209.85.250.246
>>>>> (209.85.250.246)  1.244 ms
>>>>> 5  72.14.233.93 (72.14.233.93)  1.319 ms 72.14.233.89 (72.14.233.89 
>>>>> )
>>>>> 1.337
>>>>> ms  1.209 ms
>>>>> 6  64.233.175.62 (64.233.175.62)  4.865 ms  1.457 ms  1.363 ms
>>>>> 7  bs-in-f102.google.com (64.233.163.102)  1.490 ms  1.202 ms   
>>>>> 1.363
>> ms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2009/8/27 Juliano Primavesi - Cyberweb Networks <
>> juliano at cyberweb.com.br
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Klemenson,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Seria um pouco óbvia: pararam de trocar trafego pelo Ptt-M 
>>>>>> etro-SP.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Juliano
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Klemenson Leal Anacleto escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E qual a explicacao para o grafico do PIX da global crossing  
>>>>>> cair de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> 4,5Gb
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> para 1,5Gb?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Klemenson Leal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2009/8/26 Juliano Primavesi - Cyberweb Networks <
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> juliano at cyberweb.com.br>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Acho brabo... esse trafego assim como "apareceu", "sumiu".  
>>>>>>>> Era troca
>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>> trafego entre Global Crossing e uma operadora do mercado... o  
>>>>>>>> nosso
>>>>>>>> trafego
>>>>>>>> para o PTT esta normal. A variação que o Diego deve te 
>>>>>>>> r visualizado
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pode
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> estar relacionada com os anuncios de BGP dele no PTT (anuncio  
>>>>>> de CIDR
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> PTT
>>>>>>>> = anuncio de CIDR "publico"), assim alguma operadora pode ter
>>>>>>>> preferido
>>>>>>>> entregar o trafego para ele por outro lugar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Juliano
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gustavo Santos escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Será que isto tem haver com uma lentidão que estamos s 
>>>>>>>> entido para
>>>>>>>> acessar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> servicos do google, principalmente youtube? Já que o 
>>>>>>>>>  acesso é feito
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> via
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> PTT-Metro.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2009/8/26 Diego Zuaneti Arruda <diego at fasternet.com.br>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pessoal, dentro das ultimas 2 semanas estamos notando algumas
>>>>>>>>>> quedas
>>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>>> link.
>>>>>>>>>> Estavamos usando cerca de 130Mb, e de repente caiu pra 60Mb,
>> depois
>>>>>>>>>> voltou
>>>>>>>>>> pra 120Mb, depois caiu novamente pra 60Mb.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Esses picos ocorreram várias vezes no dia de hoje  
>>>>>>>>>> e algumas vezes
>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>>> semana.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Outra coisa que notei é que o PIX da Global Crossing estava
>> usando
>>>>>>>>>> cerca
>>>>>>>>>> de 4.5Gb, e desde o dia 22, o link está em média 1 
>>>>>>>>>> .5Gb. Vejam em
>>>>>>>>>> http://sp.ptt.br/cgi-bin/pix_gblx_bps
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Alguém está sabendo de alguma coisa?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Obrigado,
>>>>>>>>>> Diego Z Arruda
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