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Fernando Krahe fernando at optiglobe.net.br
Thu Apr 11 11:15:00 -03 2002

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Tem um thread na lista NANOG questionando o destino da receita das
inscricoes. Algumas ideias ja foram discutidas na nossa lista. Abaixo
ha alguns trechos.


> >We used to pay $150 or so to attend NANOG conferences.
> > Why are we charged $300 now?  Where is our $150,000+
> >going?
> To be perfectly honest, I'm more than happy with the cost of the
> NANOG  conference.
> I get probably 2 or 3 invitations to "conferences" every week
> through the  post, and they're all the equivalent of $2000 upwards
> for a 1 or 2 day  conference. And these conferences are more a
> marketting hype, so will be  *heavily* sponsored by the companies
> who present at them.
> So, $300 for a 3 day conference, where it's stuff that's actually
> relevant  and useful to my job, and isn't just a marketting
> exercise by the vendors  who spam me with plenty of material
> anyway, is, in my view, good value for  money.
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> Also, you must realize that not everyone gets hit with the $300
> charge.   Hosts and presenters get free admission, and students get
> a greatly reduced  fee.
> As other people say, this is probably the best value for your money
> of  anything else.  You get to hear what is going on, you get to
> put faces to  names (and voices), and you get to talk shop with
> others in your field  without all the "business" people around
> saying what you can and can't say.  
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> It all depends on your financial status. I can think of quite a few
> very competent "industry" people who have been unable to attend the
> recent nanogs due to their companies either having gone under or
> being in the process of going under.
> But then again, there are already too many people who don't belong
> at a NANOG showing up and crowding the rooms because they didn't
> know what to expect. Keeping the costs slightly high does help both
> companies and individuals consider carefully if they really care
> about all the geekiness that goes on there, or if they are better
> off pursuing their "CCNA to be"   careers through some other means.
> Not being elitist, just being realistic  on what some people expect
> to get out of going to the conferences. This  isn't Defcon after
> all. :)
> So while I agree that it probably doesn't cost more then a few
> peoples time for a few weeks, and the money is probably going to
> fund other Merit  activities, I'm not certain that I'd want the
> prices dropped much lower.  Unless of course, they'd like to give
> discounts for people who have  attended many past NANOGs are who
> are now unemployeed. :)

- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Susan Harris" <srh at merit.edu>
To: "Richard A Steenbergen" <ras at e-gerbil.net>
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog at merit.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2002 6:49 PM
Subject: Re: NANOG costs

> > Unless of course, they'd like to give discounts for people who
> > have  attended many past NANOGs are who are now unemployeed. :)
> Unfortunately discounts just aren't feasible - there'd be
> administrative problems and questions of fairness to other
> attendees (and to Merit, since our per-attendee costs wouldn't
> change.) Plus, we're not sure it would solve the problem,
> considering everyone's high travel and hotel costs.  
> There's always multicast and RealAudio ...

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