[caiu] vogel telecom porcaria quedas
Henrique Isoppo - Datacenter Websul
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Dom Jun 26 08:50:50 BRT 2016
A SouthTech comecou a incluir Juniper na rede nos idos de 2011/2012. Lembro que fui numa reunião lá, quando trabalhava em outro ISP, e estavam em festa.
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-----Original Message-----
From: caiu [mailto:caiu-bounces em eng.registro.br] On Behalf Of Marcos Diego
Sent: 25 June 2016 12:16 PM
To: Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
Subject: Re: [caiu] vogel telecom porcaria quedas
Agora
Lasco tudo....,
Eles não sabem mexer nos datacom imagina nos junos ?
Meus problemas com a vogel são sempre os mesmos cagada de configuração
Marcos
Enviado do meu iPhone
> Em 25 de jun de 2016, às 02:04, Evandro Prudente <junior em wanhouse.com.br> escreveu:
>
> Equipamentos ? Se fosse so isso.... a cisco poderia ter o melhor provedor
> do mundo .... A distancia entre realidade e sonho ainda continua....
>
> Em 24 de junho de 2016 23:23, Michel L. M. B. Perez <michelmbperez em gmail.com
>> escreveu:
>
>>
>> http://www.baguete.com.br/noticias/31/03/2016/vogel-adquire-switches-da-juniper/
>>
>> Tomara que a noticia acima traga melhorias pros amigos que tem serviço da
>> Vogel, certo?
>>
>> --
>> Michel Perez
>> Skype: michelmbperez
>> michelmbperez em gmail.com
>> http://br.linkedin.com/in/michelmbperez
>>
>> Em 21 de junho de 2016 19:49, Roosvelt David <roosveltdavid em hotmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>
>>> Amigos,
>>>
>>> Vendo a Recorrência dos fatos com a “Vogel Telecom Porcaria” tem sido
>>> praticamente a trending top da Lista.
>>>
>>> Não seria interessante para vocês fundarem uma cooperativa de internet?
>> eu
>>> não contei aqui, mas por baixo são pelo menos umas 30 recorrências de
>>> reclamações com a empresa. uma filial de uma empresa de um contato meu
>> que
>>> usa Vogel tem reclamado bastante desde a época da SouthTech. se lançar um
>>> tópico da Vogel com problemas aqui chove respostas dos nobres colegas
>>>
>>> Voces poderiam montar as ilhas de calor (onde estão concentrados os
>>> maiores casos dos problemas) em forma de mapas, e montar uma rota de
>> Fibras
>>> que atenda as necessidades de vocês. Podendo então negociar com Carriers
>> e
>>> com operadores Tier 1. e não mais ficar a mercê da Vogel, caso não tenham
>>> outras opções de links de atacado.
>>>
>>> Existe um caso que ocorreu na Inglaterra há alguns anos atrás de um
>>> movimento parecido, embora para usuários residenciais >>
>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-21442348 <
>>> http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-21442348> >> Traduzido >>
>>> https://tecnoblog.net/124318/b4rn-fibra-otica-arkholme/ <
>>> https://tecnoblog.net/124318/b4rn-fibra-otica-arkholme/> Poderia ser
>>> discutido inclusive na GTER.
>>>
>>> é só uma sugestão de um assunto a ser estudado pelos nobres colegas ai no
>>> RS. ou de outros locais que sejam atendidos pela Vogel. há uma discussão
>>> bem técnica a ser trabalhada para viabilizar isso, mas vendo os
>> recorrentes
>>> problemas dos colegas, acho ser um assunto pertinente a ser avaliado como
>>> uma saída, já que a Vogel parece não se importar com os usuários e pelos
>>> relatos da lista, muitos parecem que estão plenamente dependentes da
>>> empresa.
>>>
>>> R∞svelt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Em 21 de jun de 2016, à(s) 12:27 PM, William <bitok1 em gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Aqui a Vogel é um lixo... não só aqui, como todo o Sul do RS.
>>>> Conversei com muitos provedores da região que tem circuito com eles e
>>> todos
>>>> reclamam.
>>>>
>>>> Além disso, recebi uma ameaça de processo de um funcionário da empresa
>>>> porque fiz uma piada.
>>>>
>>>> Agém de má fé, inventam desculpa para justificar os problemas, não
>>>> respondem.
>>>>
>>>> Faz uma semana que estou tendo problemas diariamente e não resolvem,
>>>> inventam uma desculpa e encerram o chamado, agora mesmo faz 3 dias que
>>> nem
>>>> sequer passam alguma informação.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> E me cobram 169,00 / Mb.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah e os problemas não foram devido a fusão ao grupo P2 não, desde
>> quando
>>>> era SouthTech era a mesma porcaria e tratavam o cliente com a mesma
>> falta
>>>> de respeito.
>>>>
>>>> Em 21 de junho de 2016 10:03, marcello romão <eth0jpa em gmail.com>
>>> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>>> Aqui também, durante a noite nunca chegava na banda contratada, sempre
>>>>> ficava abaixo. Liguei reclamando, verificaram e os meus clientes
>>> passaram a
>>>>> consumir a banda toda, passou uns 3 dias e voltou a ficar na mesma.
>>>>>
>>>>> Essa Vogel/SouthTech tá uma tristeza.
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 20 de junho de 2016 16:43, Marcos Scheinpflug <
>> marcos em dovale.inf.br>
>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Voltamos a sofrer ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dovale.inf.br/imagens/lq_hour0.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.dovale.inf.br/imagens/
>>>>>> <http://www.dovale.inf.br/imagens/lp_1_8hours.png>lp_1_8hours.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 14 de junho de 2016 17:35, Jonas André Klatt <
>> jonasklatt em gmail.com>
>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Santo Cristo - RS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 14 de junho de 2016 17:30, Marcos Scheinpflug <
>>> marcos em dovale.inf.br
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rota Litoral/RS up
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Enviado do meu telefone Windows 10
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *De: *Jonas André Klatt <jonasklatt em gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> *Enviado:*terça-feira, 14 de junho de 2016 16:20
>>>>>>>> *Para: *Lista das indisponibilidades da Internet brasileira
>>>>>>>> <caiu em eng.registro.br>
>>>>>>>> *Assunto: *Re: [caiu] vogel telecom porcaria quedas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mais alguem com circuito da Vogel fora neste momento? Região
>> noroeste
>>>>> do
>>>>>>>> RS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 8 de junho de 2016 11:04, suporte salvador <
>>>>> suporteinfossa em gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Se todos que desceram as seções, subirem vai ser lindo... SQN
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Em 08/06/2016 09:28, "marcello romão" <eth0jpa em gmail.com>
>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Notei uma leve melhora no serviço. Vamos ver se melhora mesmo ou
>>>>> se
>>>>>> é
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> algo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> momentâneo...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Em 8 de junho de 2016 08:18, Marcos Scheinpflug <
>>>>>> marcos em dovale.inf.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Gustavo/Vogel,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Já percebi uma melhora aqui com o procedimento de ontem
>>>>>> (07/06/2016
>>>>>>>> -
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> após
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> às18:30hs).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 7 de junho de 2016 20:26, rafa strassburger <
>>>>>>>> rafaeltdk em hotmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Creio que não sege o caso da Vogel, investir e o que mais os
>>>>>>>> mesmos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> tem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> feito, sou cliente desta empresa e estou sendo afetado por
>>>>> estes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> problemas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> também, mas entendo que o transporte por hora passa por
>>>>>> terceiros
>>>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ficam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> amarrados a eles, como nós tb espero que consigam sanar o mais
>>>>>>>> rápido
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> possível, pois a choradeira dos clientes esta grande, fora que
>>>>>>>> esta
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> queimando a imagem deles isso.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2016 11:45:26 -0300
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: suporteinfossa em gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: caiu em eng.registro.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [caiu] vogel telecom porcaria quedas
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quando a anornalidade tem que ser respondida com
>>>>> investimento
>>>>>> e
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> demanda
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tempo, geralmente as operadoras de fazem de cegas...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 07/06/2016 11:36, "Archangelis" <arcphenomenus em gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não tem ninguém da Vogel pra responder essa anormalidade.
>>>>>>>> Aqui no
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> RJ
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funciona perfeitamente.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 07/06/2016 11:27, "Cesar Francisco de Almeida" <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> cesar em vinet.com.br>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acabo de derrubar sessão bgp com eles...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 07-06-2016 11:24, Rogerio Alves wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Desistam da vogel, muito ruim o serviço, Não tem
>>>>> pessoal
>>>>>>>> que
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> entende de
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> redes la não, so 1 ou 2!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Att. Rogerio Alves
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 7 de junho de 2016 11:15, Tiago Giovanaz da SIlva <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiago em giovanaz.com.br>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Por volta de 10:21 começou...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Depois das 5 quedas baixamos a sessão BGP com eles.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vou abrir chamado para registrar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 7 de junho de 2016 11:12, Tiago Giovanaz da SIlva <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiago em giovanaz.com.br>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 7 de junho de 2016 10:59, Felippe Alves
>>>>> Constantino
>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fconstantino em gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bom dia!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em que estado é isso?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Att.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 7 de junho de 2016 10:58, Tiago Giovanaz da
>>>>> SIlva <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiago em giovanaz.com.br>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Acabamos de derrubar a Vogel devido a instabilidades
>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> link.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tiago
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 7 de junho de 2016 08:29, Marcos Scheinpflug <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> marcos em dovale.inf.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Não é só no ptt/rs que a Vogel está com problemas.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olhem os gráficos que o meu RRDTOOL gerou para
>>>>> dois
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> roteadores
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deles:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.dovale.inf.br/imagens/200.152.253.248.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.dovale.inf.br/imagens/187.16.216.127.png
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 7 de junho de 2016 08:21, Marcio Dias <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> marcio em dbug.com.br
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Para ser PIX, eles precisam de capacidade
>>>>> redundante.
>>>>>>>> Ou
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> seja,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dois
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> canais de 10G, sendo considerado apenas um. Esse
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> estrangulamento,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verdade já devem estar usando a segunda rota para
>>>>>> saída.
>>>>>>>> Até
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aparece
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na medição o máximo de 11.3G.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcio Fraisleben Dias
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ;DBUG Telecom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 42 3252 2306
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 42 8806 8865
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 41 9879 1853
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 6 de junho de 2016 21:24, ispbrasil web <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ispbrasil em hotmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obter o Outlook para Android<
>>>>>> https://aka.ms/ghei36>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:13 PM -0300, "marcello
>>>>>>>> romão"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> eth0jpa em gmail.com<mailto:eth0jpa em gmail.com>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aqui na fibra até o roteador deles (meu
>>>>> gateway) 2
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> pings
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perdidos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> em
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2600,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> porém com uma oscilação tensa. pings indo de 0 a
>>>>>>>> 500ms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> isso
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> de
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouco mais de 50% da banda contratada.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alguém enfrentando problemas de lentidão à noite
>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> eles,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> mesmo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> banda
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> disponível?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Em 6 de junho de 2016 18:26, Nawebi <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> nawebi em nawebi.com.br>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> link da vogel telecom esta apresentando novamente
>>>>>>>> quedas,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consumo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cai
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> para
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20% e fica em torno de 5 segundos e volta ao
>>>>>> normal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> estamos
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> abrindo 3
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chamados por semana com o mesmo tipo de problema,
>>>>>>>> alguem
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mais?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nesse momento no suporte ninguem esta atendendo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> telefone
>>>>>>>>
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