From henpate at terra.com.br Mon Jun 2 11:34:08 2003 From: henpate at terra.com.br (Henrique Pantarotto) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 11:34:08 -0300 Subject: [GTER] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Telef=F4nica_=E9?= acusada de enviar spam In-Reply-To: <00d101c32697$81b66f80$b209fea9@organizacao> References: <00d101c32697$81b66f80$b209fea9@organizacao> Message-ID: <20030602112902.369B.HENPATE@terra.com.br> Giordani, voc? tem o cabe?alho completo desse SPAM? ? que, al?m do IP mencionado na mat?ria, deve aparecer l? o IP interno da esta??o ou servidor que teoricamente mandou este spam. Obrigado, Henrique. On Fri, 30 May 2003 07:37:44 -0300 "Giordani Rodrigues" wrote: > http://www.infoguerra.com.br/infoguerra.php?newsid=1054290555,59279,/ > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter From giordani at infoguerra.com.br Mon Jun 2 13:52:30 2003 From: giordani at infoguerra.com.br (Giordani Rodrigues) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:52:30 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BGTER=5D__Telef=F4nica_=E9_acusada_de_enviar_spam?= References: <00d101c32697$81b66f80$b209fea9@organizacao> <20030602112902.369B.HENPATE@terra.com.br> Message-ID: <007c01c32927$5b2ac9a0$b209fea9@organizacao> Ol?, Henrique. Tenho a mensagem que foi recebida pelo Hermann. Segue abaixo: []s Giordani Return-Path: Received: from telesp.com.br (rev-inter.telesp.com.br [200.205.95.10]) by mail.hermann.com.br (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4QGZJBK020520 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:35:20 GMT Received: from ecoficotto (10-11-31-242.telesp.com.br [10.11.31.242]) by telesp.com.br (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19216 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 13:38:07 -0300 (EST) Message-Id: <200305261638.NAA19216 at telesp.com.br> Reply-To: nao_responder_esse_email at telesp.com.br From: Linha Telef?nica X-Mailer: YAMS 3.5 To: 4453785223 Subject: Imperd?vel ! Sender: nao_responder_esse_email at telesp.com.br Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso" Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:33:03 -0300 X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY version=2.53 X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) [ The following text is in the "iso" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] e-mail marketing linha telefônica

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Henrique Pantarotto" To: "Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes" Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [GTER] Telef?nica ? acusada de enviar spam Giordani, voc? tem o cabe?alho completo desse SPAM? ? que, al?m do IP mencionado na mat?ria, deve aparecer l? o IP interno da esta??o ou servidor que teoricamente mandou este spam. Obrigado, Henrique. On Fri, 30 May 2003 07:37:44 -0300 "Giordani Rodrigues" wrote: > http://www.infoguerra.com.br/infoguerra.php?newsid=1054290555,59279,/ > -- From ricardag at agsistemas.com.br Mon Jun 2 13:54:46 2003 From: ricardag at agsistemas.com.br (Ricardo A G Almeida) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 13:54:46 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Mais uma Message-ID: <001301c32927$ac858240$0381000a@winxp> Gente, isto est? se transformando numa praga maior que a do SPAM.... mais um keylogger da vida. Desta vez, se fazendo passar pela Embratel. Para os interessados, os cabecalhos: Received: from ibest.com.br (pm4-s04.amazon.com.br [200.242.245.133]) by agsistemas.com.br (8.11.2/8.11.2/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with SMTP id h522Ttk02721 for ; Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:29:56 GMT Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:29:56 GMT Message-Id: <200306020229.h522Ttk02721 at agsistemas.com.br> From: "Embratel" To: clientes at embratel.com.br Subject: Extrato de conta telefonica MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html O e-mail completo esta em anexo, vamos ver se passa. sds, Ricardo A G Almeida ricardag at agsistemas.com.br http://www.agsistemas.com.br --- File has not been scanned Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 19/5/2003 -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Embratel" Subject: Extrato de conta telefonica Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 02:29:56 GMT Size: 3525 URL: From fabio.santos at atl.com.br Mon Jun 2 10:49:47 2003 From: fabio.santos at atl.com.br (Fabio Oliveira dos Santos - ATL) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 10:49:47 -0300 Subject: Netfow (era Re: [GTER] NAP Carrier Neutral) Message-ID: Ol? Marcelo, Vi sua msg sobre o Netflow, gostaria de contar com a sua ajuda... A pouco tempo implementei o Netflow onde trabalho porem preciso de ter a medi??es de trafego por roteador, ou seja, em cada roteador eu preciso saber os tr?fegos ( in.out/aplication etc) porem quando os arquivos rrd's s?o gerados eles n?o s?o gerados para cada roteador ... ele s?o gerados para toda rede... tem como eu efetuar uma separa??o e gerar esses arquivos para cada router meu ??? Desde j? grato, F?bio Oliveira dos Santos From danton at inexo.com.br Mon Jun 2 15:34:56 2003 From: danton at inexo.com.br (Danton Nunes) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:34:56 -0300 (EST) Subject: [GTER] acesso aos servidores de nomes de .mil Message-ID: Pessoal, parece que os servidores de nomes de .mil est?o novamente em paz com o Brasil. De uma m?quina na rede "maldita", 200.128/9: $ host tock.usno.navy.mil tock.usno.navy.mil has address 192.5.41.41 $ host 192.5.41.41 41.41.5.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer ntp1.usno.navy.mil. 41.41.5.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer tock.usno.navy.mil. n?o sei qual ? o nome do santo, mas estou feliz pelo milagre. por via das d?vidas meus ntpd.conf continuar?o a referir os servidores do USNO por IP, at? ter certeza de que estabilizou mesmo. Eu uso quatro servidores de tempo, dois no Brasil e dois fora, mas por alguma raz?o esot?rica sempre sincroniza melhor com o do USNO. descobri isso meio sem querer, porque fui ver como estava sendo acertado um de nossos rel?gios e esqueci o -n no ntptrace, j? estava achando que ia encalhar na resolu??o reversa, mas, surpresa!, resolveu direitinho. Danton From fneves at registro.br Mon Jun 2 15:46:02 2003 From: fneves at registro.br (Frederico A C Neves) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:46:02 -0300 Subject: [GTER] acesso aos servidores de nomes de .mil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030602184602.GB57174@registro.br> On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 03:34:56PM -0300, Danton Nunes wrote: ... > n?o sei qual ? o nome do santo, mas estou feliz pelo milagre. por via das ... NANOG From rubens at email.com Mon Jun 2 15:51:01 2003 From: rubens at email.com (Rubens Kuhl Jr.) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:51:01 -0300 Subject: [GTER] acesso aos servidores de nomes de .mil References: Message-ID: <095b01c32937$f07a68c0$1302a8c0@default> For?a do h?bito: o primeiro host que tentei resolver foi nic.ddn.mil, mas esse n?o existe h? muito tempo... Rubens ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danton Nunes" To: Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 3:34 PM Subject: [GTER] acesso aos servidores de nomes de .mil | Pessoal, | | parece que os servidores de nomes de .mil est?o novamente em paz com o Brasil. | De uma m?quina na rede "maldita", 200.128/9: | | $ host tock.usno.navy.mil | tock.usno.navy.mil has address 192.5.41.41 | $ host 192.5.41.41 | 41.41.5.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer ntp1.usno.navy.mil. | 41.41.5.192.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer tock.usno.navy.mil. | | n?o sei qual ? o nome do santo, mas estou feliz pelo milagre. por via das | d?vidas meus ntpd.conf continuar?o a referir os servidores do USNO por IP, at? | ter certeza de que estabilizou mesmo. Eu uso quatro servidores de tempo, dois | no Brasil e dois fora, mas por alguma raz?o esot?rica sempre sincroniza melhor | com o do USNO. | | descobri isso meio sem querer, porque fui ver como estava sendo acertado um de | nossos rel?gios e esqueci o -n no ntptrace, j? estava achando que ia encalhar | na resolu??o reversa, mas, surpresa!, resolveu direitinho. | | Danton | | | -- | GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter | From danton at inexo.com.br Mon Jun 2 15:57:34 2003 From: danton at inexo.com.br (Danton Nunes) Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2003 15:57:34 -0300 (EST) Subject: [GTER] acesso aos servidores de nomes de .mil In-Reply-To: <095b01c32937$f07a68c0$1302a8c0@default> Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote: > For?a do h?bito: o primeiro host que tentei resolver foi nic.ddn.mil, mas > esse n?o existe h? muito tempo... depois n?o v? ficar puto se te chamarem de "dinossauro" da internet. abra?os jur?ssicos, dantossaurus interneticus From ferulisses at linkway.com.br Mon Jun 2 15:35:17 2003 From: ferulisses at linkway.com.br (Fernando Ulisses dos Santos) Date: 02 Jun 2003 15:35:17 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Outro keylogger ? 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From michel at michel.eti.br Mon Jun 2 20:06:42 2003 From: michel at michel.eti.br (Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:06:42 -0300 Subject: [GTER] =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Telef=F4nica_=E9_acusada_de_e?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?nviar_spam?= In-Reply-To: <007c01c32927$5b2ac9a0$b209fea9@organizacao> References: <00d101c32697$81b66f80$b209fea9@organizacao> <20030602112902.369B.HENPATE@terra.com.br> <007c01c32927$5b2ac9a0$b209fea9@organizacao> Message-ID: <3EDBD882.6050806@michel.eti.br> Xii... Esse IP [200.205.95.10] j? ? velho conhecido meu. Alguns meses atr?s precisei falar com o respons?vel por esse IP porque tinham v?rios usu?rios do provedor em que eu trabalhava reclamando de SPAM, realizamos o bloqueio nesse IP e nos trouxe um pouco de transtorno. Clientes do provedor que tinham configurado para receber a conta de celular atrav?s de email (como eu tamb?m) pararam de receber por causa do bloqueio, mas ficou em um dilema isso, porque se liberasse recebia SPAM, se n?o liberasse os clientes n?o recebiam a cobran?a. At? que uma Sra. resolveu o problema reprimindo o usu?rio, ser? que o mesmo "mala" est? fazendo esse SPAM? t+ Giordani Rodrigues wrote: > Ol?, Henrique. > > Tenho a mensagem que foi recebida pelo Hermann. Segue abaixo: > > []s > > Giordani > > Return-Path: > Received: from telesp.com.br (rev-inter.telesp.com.br [200.205.95.10]) > by mail.hermann.com.br (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id > h4QGZJBK020520 > for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:35:20 GMT > Received: from ecoficotto (10-11-31-242.telesp.com.br [10.11.31.242]) > by telesp.com.br (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA19216 > for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 13:38:07 -0300 (EST) > Message-Id: <200305261638.NAA19216 at telesp.com.br> > Reply-To: nao_responder_esse_email at telesp.com.br > From: Linha Telef?nica > X-Mailer: YAMS 3.5 > To: 4453785223 > Subject: Imperd?vel ! > Sender: nao_responder_esse_email at telesp.com.br > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso" > Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 13:33:03 -0300 > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 > tests=HTML_50_60,HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08,HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY > version=2.53 > X-Spam-Level: * > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.53 (1.174.2.15-2003-03-30-exp) -- ======================================================================= || Analista de Seguran?a || ||Solaris Certified System Administrator - Conectiva Linux Specialist|| ||Mondonet Network Solutions - www.mondonet.com.br - (016) 3911-5323 || ======================================================================= From adriano at unesp.br Mon Jun 2 20:58:45 2003 From: adriano at unesp.br (Adriano Mauro Cansian) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 20:58:45 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Timeout em servidores DNS da Telefonica In-Reply-To: <09a101c3293a$37b9c7b0$1302a8c0@default> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030602155227.03fc54a8@localhost> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030602205052.0246be90@localhost> Pessoal, Algu?m tem experimentado falhas de timeout nos servidores de DNS dos ADSLs da Telefonica ? Vejam como exemplo: Pelo servidor default anunciado pelo DHCP do ADSL da Telefonica: > www.xxxxxxxxxx.com Server: resolver1.telesp.net.br Address: 200.204.0.10 DNS request timed out. timeout was 10 seconds. *** Request to resolver1.telesp.net.br timed-out Agora pelo meu servidor da UNESP: > www.xxxxxxxxxx.com Server: ns.unesp.br Address: 200.145.1.1 Non-authoritative answer: Name: www.xxxxxxxxxx.com Address: 209.xxx.yyy.zzz Tenho percebido este problema para diversos dom?nios .com e .org . Isso vem se prolongando h? v?rios dias. Alguma suspeita do que possa estar ocorrendo ? Servidores sobrecarregados ? Algu?m percebe problema semelhante em outros pontos do Pa?s ? (estou em S.Pauo, SP). Um abra?o, Adriano -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/5/2003 From marcus at sbh.eng.br Mon Jun 2 21:08:01 2003 From: marcus at sbh.eng.br (Marcus Grando) Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 21:08:01 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Timeout em servidores DNS da Telefonica In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030602205052.0246be90@localhost> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20030602155227.03fc54a8@localhost> <5.1.0.14.2.20030602205052.0246be90@localhost> Message-ID: <3EDBE6E1.8090606@sbh.eng.br> Ola, Existia um problema parecido nos DNS da Brasil Telecom, mas acho que foi solucionado pois n?o tive mais nenhum problema. Provavelmente o problema ? de sobrecarga mesmo. Abra?os Adriano Mauro Cansian wrote: > Pessoal, > > Algu?m tem experimentado falhas de timeout nos servidores de DNS dos > ADSLs da Telefonica ? > > Vejam como exemplo: > > Pelo servidor default anunciado pelo DHCP do ADSL da Telefonica: > > > www.xxxxxxxxxx.com > Server: resolver1.telesp.net.br > Address: 200.204.0.10 > DNS request timed out. timeout was 10 seconds. *** Request to > resolver1.telesp.net.br timed-out > > Agora pelo meu servidor da UNESP: > > > www.xxxxxxxxxx.com > Server: ns.unesp.br > Address: 200.145.1.1 > > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: www.xxxxxxxxxx.com > Address: 209.xxx.yyy.zzz > > Tenho percebido este problema para diversos dom?nios .com e .org . > Isso vem se prolongando h? v?rios dias. > > Alguma suspeita do que possa estar ocorrendo ? Servidores > sobrecarregados ? Algu?m percebe problema semelhante em outros pontos do > Pa?s ? (estou em S.Pauo, SP). > > Um abra?o, > > Adriano > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.486 / Virus Database: 284 - Release Date: 29/5/2003 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter -- Marcus Grando From MBORBA at trf3.gov.br Tue Jun 3 12:03:54 2003 From: MBORBA at trf3.gov.br (MARLON BORBA) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:03:54 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Timeout em servidores DNS da Telefonica Message-ID: ao que parece nao sou a unica pessoa a constatar esse problema. sou usuario speedy pppoe. ha' tempos constato degradacao na resolucao de queries dns. a menos que a telefonica use algum 'redirector' que force todos os pacotes destinados 'a porta 53 para algum trast^Wservidor interno, e considerando que, em casa, estou fazendo mudan?a para redhat 9, penso em colocar o meu proprio dns 'caching nameserver' e resolver a partir dos 'root servers' ou de algum outro servidor acessivel publicamente... []s querendo DETONAR a telephonica, marlon. >>> adriano at unesp.br 06/02 8:58 pm >>> Pessoal, Algu?m tem experimentado falhas de timeout nos servidores de DNS dos ADSLs da Telefonica ? Vejam como exemplo: Pelo servidor default anunciado pelo DHCP do ADSL da Telefonica: > www.xxxxxxxxxx.com Server: resolver1.telesp.net.br Address: 200.204.0.10 DNS request timed out. timeout was 10 seconds. *** Request to resolver1.telesp.net.br timed-out Agora pelo meu servidor da UNESP: > www.xxxxxxxxxx.com Server: ns.unesp.br Address: 200.145.1.1 Non-authoritative answer: Name: www.xxxxxxxxxx.com Address: 209.xxx.yyy.zzz Tenho percebido este problema para diversos dom?nios .com e .org . Isso vem se prolongando h? v?rios dias. Alguma suspeita do que possa estar ocorrendo ? Servidores sobrecarregados ? Algu?m percebe problema semelhante em outros pontos do Pa?s ? (estou em S.Pauo, SP). Um abra?o, Adriano /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ From listas at xtms.com.br Tue Jun 3 13:37:06 2003 From: listas at xtms.com.br (Listas XTMS) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 13:37:06 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Timeout em servidores DNS da Telefonica In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030603133706.6bdc9a08.listas@xtms.com.br> Ol?, lista. Talvez a telef?nica fa?a isso mesmo. Digo talvez porque uma das nossas filiais estava utilizando nosso dns para resolu??o, mas sempre que o dns da telef?nica apresentava problemas, a filial tamb?m sofria do mesmo. A solu??o foi passar as resolu??es de DNS por dentro da VPN. Depois disso nunca mais tive problemas l?. Ali?s, uma observa??o... Algu?m j? reparou que nunca p?ra s? um dos servidores DNS da telef?nica? Quando p?ra um, param os dois. Pode ser preconceito meu, mas isso tem um cheio de duas interfaces num host s?... sei l?.... []'s On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:03:54 -0300 "MARLON BORBA" wrote: > ... a menos que a telefonica use algum 'redirector' que force todos os pacotes destinados 'a porta 53 para algum trast^Wservidor interno... -- _______________ / Eri R. Bastos \___________________________________________________ | | | | E-Mail: erirb at xtms.com.br | | .|. UIN: 120885138 | | /V\ | | // \\ Homepage: www.linuxman.pro.br | | /( )\ Public Key:http://www.linuxman.pro.br/erirb.asc | | ^`~'^ md5: de8706a3b0fd24e5613ac642ccac5629 | | #83185 | `-------------------------------------------------------------------' From MBORBA at trf3.gov.br Tue Jun 3 13:49:03 2003 From: MBORBA at trf3.gov.br (MARLON BORBA) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 13:49:03 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Timeout em servidores DNS da Telefonica Message-ID: nao creio, prezados. quando verifiquei no registro .br ha' algum tempo os dns da telefonica percebi uma coisa interessantissima:- para cada bloco cidr dos ip's dos clientes adsl havia um servidor (nomeado no padrao dnsqipbrXX.telesp.net.br). pesquisem, por exemplo, o 'netblock' 200.204/16 no whois do registro. br que voces verao. pode ser que, azaradamente, sejam os servidores dos nossos 'netblocks' a dar chabum... []s, m. >>> listas at xtms.com.br 06/03 1:37 pm >>> Ol?, lista. Talvez a telef?nica fa?a isso mesmo. Digo talvez porque uma das nossas filiais estava utilizando nosso dns para resolu??o, mas sempre que o dns da telef?nica apresentava problemas, a filial tamb?m sofria do mesmo. A solu??o foi passar as resolu??es de DNS por dentro da VPN. Depois disso nunca mais tive problemas l?. Ali?s, uma observa??o... Algu?m j? reparou que nunca p?ra s? um dos servidores DNS da telef?nica? Quando p?ra um, param os dois. Pode ser preconceito meu, mas isso tem um cheio de duas interfaces num host s?... sei l?.... []'s On Tue, 03 Jun 2003 12:03:54 -0300 "MARLON BORBA" wrote: > ... a menos que a telefonica use algum 'redirector' que force todos os pacotes destinados 'a porta 53 para algum trast^Wservidor interno... -- _______________ / Eri R. Bastos \___________________________________________________ | | | | E-Mail: erirb at xtms.com.br | | .|. UIN: 120885138 | | /V\ | | // \\ Homepage: www.linuxman.pro.br | | /( )\ Public Key:http://www.linuxman.pro.br/erirb.asc | | ^`~'^ md5: de8706a3b0fd24e5613ac642ccac5629 | | #83185 | `-------------------------------------------------------------------' -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ From fabio at unesp.br Tue Jun 3 17:02:04 2003 From: fabio at unesp.br (fabio at unesp.br) Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2003 17:02:04 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Tentativa de "mass mailing". Message-ID: <3EDCD48C.19628.1A83BF0@localhost> Prezados colegas. Aqui na Unesp, Reitoria, nos deparamos ontem, 02/06/2003, no final da tarde, e hoje pela manha a tentativas de, talvez, 'mass mailing', tendo como origem uma das famigeradas dsl?s da telefonica. Ontem, o endere?o usado pela maquina foi 200.161.248.56. Hoje, foi com 200.161.248.118. Se algu?m quiser os logs para analisar, temos os registrados pela nossa mx. Atenciosamente. F?bio de Oliveira From durval at tmp.com.br Tue Jun 3 17:26:21 2003 From: durval at tmp.com.br (Durval Menezes) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:26:21 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Tentativa de "mass mailing". In-Reply-To: <3EDCD48C.19628.1A83BF0@localhost>; from fabio@unesp.br on Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:02:04PM -0300 References: <3EDCD48C.19628.1A83BF0@localhost> Message-ID: <20030603172621.M6695@tmp.com.br> Prezado Fabio, Obrigado pelo aviso. De qualquer forma: % nslookup 200.161.248.56 Server: rio1.telemar.net.br Address: 200.222.0.34 Name: 200-161-248-56.dsl.telesp.net.br ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Address: 200.161.248.56 Aqui no nosso MX externo, e no MX de todos os clientes que administramos, toda e qualquer tentativa de envio a partir de *.dsl.telesp.net.br e' bloqueada DIRETO na entrada. Resumo: Bloqueie a Telefonica e seja (mais) feliz! :-) Um Grande Abraco, -- Durval Menezes (durval AT tmp DOT com DOT br, http://www.tmp.com.br/) On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:02:04PM -0300, fabio at unesp.br wrote: > Prezados colegas. > > Aqui na Unesp, Reitoria, nos deparamos ontem, 02/06/2003, no final da tarde, e hoje > pela manha a tentativas de, talvez, 'mass mailing', tendo como origem uma das > famigeradas dsl?s da telefonica. > > Ontem, o endere?o usado pela maquina foi 200.161.248.56. > Hoje, foi com 200.161.248.118. > > Se algu?m quiser os logs para analisar, temos os registrados pela nossa mx. > > Atenciosamente. > > F?bio de Oliveira > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter From fabio at ipway.com.br Tue Jun 3 17:51:42 2003 From: fabio at ipway.com.br (Fabio Oliveira) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:51:42 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Tentativa de "mass mailing". References: <3EDCD48C.19628.1A83BF0@localhost> <20030603172621.M6695@tmp.com.br> Message-ID: <00cf01c32a11$f3820160$0200a8c0@note1> Fabio, Manda este log para a Telefonica....alguem aqui na lista??? Assim quando perguntarem porque os provedores estao bloqueando os e-mails de MTA com IPs dsl.telesp.net.br eles vao entender (ou pelo menos tentar...;-). Pelo que vi no cabe?alho da tua mensagem estas usando como MTA o Postfix, voc? pode habilitar o recebimento apenas de hosts com reverso resolvido, inclua la no main.cf o parametro reject_unknown_client no comando smtpd_client_restrictions . [ ]s Fabio ----- Original Message ----- From: Durval Menezes To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [GTER] Tentativa de "mass mailing". > > Prezado Fabio, > > Obrigado pelo aviso. De qualquer forma: > > % nslookup 200.161.248.56 > Server: rio1.telemar.net.br > Address: 200.222.0.34 > > Name: 200-161-248-56.dsl.telesp.net.br > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Address: 200.161.248.56 > > Aqui no nosso MX externo, e no MX de todos os clientes que > administramos, toda e qualquer tentativa de envio a partir > de *.dsl.telesp.net.br e' bloqueada DIRETO na entrada. > > Resumo: Bloqueie a Telefonica e seja (mais) feliz! :-) > > Um Grande Abraco, > -- > Durval Menezes (durval AT tmp DOT com DOT br, http://www.tmp.com.br/) > > > On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 05:02:04PM -0300, fabio at unesp.br wrote: > > Prezados colegas. > > > > Aqui na Unesp, Reitoria, nos deparamos ontem, 02/06/2003, no final da tarde, e hoje > > pela manha a tentativas de, talvez, 'mass mailing', tendo como origem uma das > > famigeradas dsl?s da telefonica. > > > > Ontem, o endere?o usado pela maquina foi 200.161.248.56. > > Hoje, foi com 200.161.248.118. > > > > Se algu?m quiser os logs para analisar, temos os registrados pela nossa mx. > > > > Atenciosamente. > > > > F?bio de Oliveira > > > > -- > > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > From danton at inexo.com.br Tue Jun 3 17:56:56 2003 From: danton at inexo.com.br (Lao DanTong) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:56:56 -0300 (EST) Subject: [GTER] Tentativa de "mass mailing". In-Reply-To: <00cf01c32a11$f3820160$0200a8c0@note1> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Jun 2003, Fabio Oliveira wrote: > Fabio, > > Manda este log para a Telefonica....alguem aqui na lista??? > > Assim quando perguntarem porque os provedores estao bloqueando os e-mails de > MTA com IPs dsl.telesp.net.br eles vao entender (ou pelo menos tentar...;-). acho que isso eles j? entendem, s? n?o d?o a devida import?ncia. From durval at tmp.com.br Tue Jun 3 18:27:43 2003 From: durval at tmp.com.br (Durval Menezes) Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 18:27:43 -0300 Subject: [GTER] [security@security.telesp.net.br: Resposta automatica] Message-ID: <20030603182743.P6695@tmp.com.br> Prezado Fabio, Segue ai' (caso a lista nao tenha recebido) a resposta VELOZ do autoresponder da Telefonica. DUVIDO que algum dia venhamos a ouvir UM PIO que seja a esse respeito. Um Grande Abraco, -- Durval Menezes (durval AT tmp DOT com DOT br, http://www.tmp.com.br/) ----- Forwarded message from security at security.telesp.net.br ----- From: security at security.telesp.net.br Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2003 17:52:40 -0300 User-Agent: Vacation/1.2.6 http://vacation.sourceforge.net To: durval at tmp.com.br Subject: Resposta automatica X-Spam: no; 0.00; reposta:01 encaminhando:01 incident:01 acesse:98 verificando:05 aguardando:09 questao:09 usuario:09 privacidade:90 waiting:12 provedor:13 estamos:14 isp:14 directions:84 resposta:18 Esta -e uma reposta automatica Agradecemos o seu contato e sua notificacao, estamos verificando e se for o caso encaminhando e acompanhando junto ao provedor de internet do usuario em questao, e aguardando as suas acoes. Atenciosamente Thank you for security issue notification, we will investigate this incident and, after ISP identification, we will forward them this note and waiting for their directions Regards Security Group Telefonica Empresas Para dicas de privacidade e seguranca acesse: www.speedy.com.br ----- End forwarded message ----- From lauro at via-rs.net Wed Jun 4 10:50:07 2003 From: lauro at via-rs.net (Lauro) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 10:50:07 -0300 Subject: [GTER] [Fwd: Su =?iso-8859-1?q?nominaci=F3n?=en =?iso-8859-1?q?Qui=E9n?=es =?iso-8859-1?q?Qui=E9n=5D?= Message-ID: <3EDDF909.15AEAE18@via-rs.net> Alguem mais recebeu esta mensagem ??? quem j? ouviu falar nesta "entidade" ???? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Su nominaci?n en Qui?n es Qui?n Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:06:26 -0300 (BRT) From: "WHO'S WHO Historical Society" Reply-To: "WHO'S WHO Historical Society" To: "lauro at via-rs.net" [Image] Estimado Lauro Barbosa, En nombre de la Sociedad Hist?rica de Qui?n es Qui?n (Who?s Who), estoy contento de informarle que le han seleccionado como candidato en la edici?n 2003-2004 de Qui?n es Qui?n Internacional de Profesionales (International Who?s Who of Professionals). ). La publicaci?n es el trabajo definitivo sobre los l?deres mundiales en el comercio, la econom?a, la pol?tica, y el comercio. Requerimos mas informaci?n para terminar el proceso de su selecci?n y solicitamos la biograf?a de su carrera llenando la forma encuentrada al siguiente correo electr?nico: http://www.internationalwhoswho.com/fax/5634FW5.htm No hay costo en ser incluido en Qui?n es Qui?n (WHO?S WHO) y no distribuimos la informaci?n de los miembros para ninguna ventas. Nuestra meta es proporcionar una referencia y un foro para establecer una interconexi?n global para l?deres mundiales. Nombramiento en la publicaci?n de Qui?n es Qui?n (WHO?S WHO) es un honor en s? mismo. La Sociedad fue fundada en 1928 y provee el listado m?s comprensivo de profesionales que sus contribuciones forman y dirigen el destino de naciones. Nuestra publicada biograf?as son de exitosos profesionales en 150 pa?ses, encontrada en varias libreri?s privadas coleccionada alrededor del mundo. La publicada biograf?as de nuestro miembros incluye los principales ejecutivos de negocios, jefe de estados, ilustre carrera acad?micas, y otros profesionales. La pr?xima publicaci?n se est? acercando r?pidamente. Le recomiendo de actuar hoy. Si se retrasa el comit? no tendra suficiente tiempo para examinar su biograf?a. Atentamente, Terrence J. Leifheit Director Ejecutivo PD: Para asegurar que su biograf?a es recibida ha tiempo, env?enos la biograf?a de su carrera por el correo electr?nico antes de Junio 13 de 2003. Al examinar su biograf?a, nuestro comit? de selecion estar? en contacto con usted. To review our privacy policy, please click here http://www.internationalwhoswho.com/privacy.htm AVISO DE LA AISLAMIENTO Frankform se complace en poder ofrecerle informaci?n constante de productos y servicios que puedan se de inter?s para usted y su empresa. 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Luciano Pasqualini -----Mensagem original----- De: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br]Em nome de Lauro Enviada em: quarta-feira, 4 de junho de 2003 10:50 Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes Assunto: [GTER] [Fwd: Su nominaci?nen Qui?nes Qui?n] Alguem mais recebeu esta mensagem ??? quem j? ouviu falar nesta "entidade" ???? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Su nominaci?n en Qui?n es Qui?n Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:06:26 -0300 (BRT) From: "WHO'S WHO Historical Society" Reply-To: "WHO'S WHO Historical Society" To: "lauro at via-rs.net" Estimado Lauro Barbosa, En nombre de la Sociedad Hist?rica de Qui?n es Qui?n (Who?s Who), estoy contento de informarle que le han seleccionado como candidato en la edici?n 2003-2004 de Qui?n es Qui?n Internacional de Profesionales (International Who?s Who of Professionals). ). La publicaci?n es el trabajo definitivo sobre los l?deres mundiales en el comercio, la econom?a, la pol?tica, y el comercio. Requerimos mas informaci?n para terminar el proceso de su selecci?n y solicitamos la biograf?a de su carrera llenando la forma encuentrada al siguiente correo electr?nico: http://www.internationalwhoswho.com/fax/5634FW5.htm No hay costo en ser incluido en Qui?n es Qui?n (WHO?S WHO) y no distribuimos la informaci?n de los miembros para ninguna ventas. Nuestra meta es proporcionar una referencia y un foro para establecer una interconexi?n global para l?deres mundiales. Nombramiento en la publicaci?n de Qui?n es Qui?n (WHO?S WHO) es un honor en s? mismo. La Sociedad fue fundada en 1928 y provee el listado m?s comprensivo de profesionales que sus contribuciones forman y dirigen el destino de naciones. Nuestra publicada biograf?as son de exitosos profesionales en 150 pa?ses, encontrada en varias libreri?s privadas coleccionada alrededor del mundo. La publicada biograf?as de nuestro miembros incluye los principales ejecutivos de negocios, jefe de estados, ilustre carrera acad?micas, y otros profesionales. La pr?xima publicaci?n se est? acercando r?pidamente. Le recomiendo de actuar hoy. Si se retrasa el comit? no tendra suficiente tiempo para examinar su biograf?a. Atentamente, Terrence J. Leifheit Director Ejecutivo PD: Para asegurar que su biograf?a es recibida ha tiempo, env?enos la biograf?a de su carrera por el correo electr?nico antes de Junio 13 de 2003. Al examinar su biograf?a, nuestro comit? de selecion estar? en contacto con usted. To review our privacy policy, please click here http://www.internationalwhoswho.com/privacy.htm AVISO DE LA AISLAMIENTO Frankform se complace en poder ofrecerle informaci?n constante de productos y servicios que puedan se de inter?s para usted y su empresa. 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From fabiano.br at uol.com.br Wed Jun 4 12:28:13 2003 From: fabiano.br at uol.com.br (fabiano.br at uol.com.br) Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 12:28:13 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Eth / Rede Eletrica - [ Off Topic ] Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030604122049.00cdaa00@pop3.uol.com.br> ol?, lembram da discuss?o sobre redes utilizando a infra el?trica ? sem propaganda, nem nada, apenas para o pessoal ver na pr?tica ... http://www.planetcell.com.br/palmbrasil/details.asp?codigo_produto=581 []s Fabiano From eduardo at sinos.net Wed Jun 4 13:37:50 2003 From: eduardo at sinos.net (Eduardo Santos Back) Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 13:37:50 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?RES:_=5BGTER=5D_=5BFwd:_Su_nominaci=F3nenQui=E9nes_Qui?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=E9n=5D?= In-Reply-To: <3EDDF909.15AEAE18@via-rs.net> Message-ID: <000501c32ab7$a3ae0b60$e2b3a8c0@Inf566> Nunca ouvi falar. Tamb?m recebi e acho que deve ser bobagem. Eduardo -----Mensagem original----- De: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] Em nome de Lauro Enviada em: quarta-feira, 4 de junho de 2003 10:50 Para: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes Assunto: [GTER] [Fwd: Su nominaci?nenQui?nes Qui?n] Alguem mais recebeu esta mensagem ??? quem j? ouviu falar nesta "entidade" ???? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Su nominaci?n en Qui?n es Qui?n Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 10:06:26 -0300 (BRT) From: "WHO'S WHO Historical Society" Reply-To: "WHO'S WHO Historical Society" To: "lauro at via-rs.net" Estimado Lauro Barbosa, En nombre de la Sociedad Hist?rica de Qui?n es Qui?n (Who?s Who), estoy contento de informarle que le han seleccionado como candidato en la edici?n 2003-2004 de Qui?n es Qui?n Internacional de Profesionales (International Who?s Who of Professionals). ). La publicaci?n es el trabajo definitivo sobre los l?deres mundiales en el comercio, la econom?a, la pol?tica, y el comercio. Requerimos mas informaci?n para terminar el proceso de su selecci?n y solicitamos la biograf?a de su carrera llenando la forma encuentrada al siguiente correo electr?nico: http://www.internationalwhoswho.com/fax/5634FW5.htm No hay costo en ser incluido en Qui?n es Qui?n (WHO?S WHO) y no distribuimos la informaci?n de los miembros para ninguna ventas. Nuestra meta es proporcionar una referencia y un foro para establecer una interconexi?n global para l?deres mundiales. Nombramiento en la publicaci?n de Qui?n es Qui?n (WHO?S WHO) es un honor en s? mismo. La Sociedad fue fundada en 1928 y provee el listado m?s comprensivo de profesionales que sus contribuciones forman y dirigen el destino de naciones. Nuestra publicada biograf?as son de exitosos profesionales en 150 pa?ses, encontrada en varias libreri?s privadas coleccionada alrededor del mundo. La publicada biograf?as de nuestro miembros incluye los principales ejecutivos de negocios, jefe de estados, ilustre carrera acad?micas, y otros profesionales. La pr?xima publicaci?n se est? acercando r?pidamente. Le recomiendo de actuar hoy. Si se retrasa el comit? no tendra suficiente tiempo para examinar su biograf?a. Atentamente, Terrence J. Leifheit Director Ejecutivo PD: Para asegurar que su biograf?a es recibida ha tiempo, env?enos la biograf?a de su carrera por el correo electr?nico antes de Junio 13 de 2003. Al examinar su biograf?a, nuestro comit? de selecion estar? en contacto con usted. To review our privacy policy, please click here http://www.internationalwhoswho.com/privacy.htm AVISO DE LA AISLAMIENTO Frankform se complace en poder ofrecerle informaci?n constante de productos y servicios que puedan se de inter?s para usted y su empresa. 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Name: CTEMPnsmail9K.gif Type: image/gif Size: 43 bytes Desc: not available URL: From helio.loureiro at edb.ericsson.se Thu Jun 5 13:19:14 2003 From: helio.loureiro at edb.ericsson.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?H=E9lio?= Loureiro) Date: 05 Jun 2003 13:19:14 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Packet tracking promises ultrafast internet] Message-ID: <1054829952.624.74.camel@localhost> Interessante. ./helio -----Mensagem encaminhada----- From: Marcus Voloch To: fugspbr at fugspbr.org Subject: [FUGSPBR] OFF - Packet tracking promises ultrafast internet Date: 04 Jun 2003 23:23:31 -0300 Muito interessante http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993799 19:00 04 June 03 Special Report from New Scientist Print Edition Imagine an internet connection so fast it will let you download a whole movie in just five seconds, or access TV-quality video servers in real time. That is the promise from a team at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, who have developed a system called Fast TCP. A key feature of Fast TCP is that it could run on the same internet infrastructure we have today. Steven Low, who led the Caltech team, likens the way the internet works now to driving a car while looking only 10 metres ahead. You slowly increase the car's speed until an obstacle comes into view, but then you have to hit the brakes. "This is OK for driving slowly in a parking lot," says Low. But on the open road you need to be able to look further ahead: "That's what we are doing with Fast TCP." . Today, all traffic on the internet uses a system called the Transmission Control Protocol (TCP) developed in the 1970s by network engineers Vinton Cerf at Stanford University and Bob Kahn at the Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency. Safe arrival TCP breaks down large files into small packets of about 1500 bytes, each carrying the address of the sender and the recipient. The sending computer transmits a packet, waits for a signal from the recipient that acknowledges its safe arrival, and then sends the next packet. If no receipt comes back, the sender transmits the same packet at half the speed of the previous one, and repeats the process, getting slower each time, until it succeeds. This means that even minor glitches on the line can make a connection very sluggish. Because Fast TCP uses the same packet sizes as regular TCP, the hardware that carries messages around the net will still work. The difference is in software and hardware on the sending computer, which continually measures the time it takes for sent packets to arrive, and how long acknowledgements take to come back. This reveals the delays on the line, giving early warnings of likely packet losses. The Fast TCP software uses this to predict the highest data rate the connection can support without losing data. Gigabits per second Since the packets are the same size as those used in TCP, none of the equipment along the internet itself will have to be modified, and no new hardware will be needed on computers receiving the data. The first practical test of Fast TCP took place in November at a supercomputing conference. Researchers from Caltech, Stanford and CERN near Geneva in Switzerland, sent data 10,000 kilometres from Sunnyvale, California, to CERN at an average rate of 925 megabits per second. Ordinary TCP managed just 266 megabits per second on the same routes. By ganging 10 Fast TCP systems together, the researchers have achieved transmission speeds of over 8.6 gigabits per second, which is more than 6000 times the capacity of ordinary broadband links. The improved "Internet 2" infrastructure, currently being developed for scientific data transmission between 200 universities around the world, will use conventional TCP to run at around 350 megabits per second, but will run even faster with Caltech's technology. And the bandwidth-hungry entertainment industry is also looking at Fast TCP. Caltech is already in talks with Microsoft and Disney about using it for video on demand. Barry Fox From rgirao at prmg.mpf.gov.br Thu Jun 5 12:53:36 2003 From: rgirao at prmg.mpf.gov.br (Regilberto F. Girao) Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 12:53:36 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Fw: Sua diversao esta garantidaVGVBMWWRQB Message-ID: <008601c32b7a$a0346a60$1c2a8ec8@prmg.mpf.gov.br> newsletter2Senhores: SPAM Jogatina Governamental (Sera mesmo?). PUTZ. E o cumulo! Origem e IG. Pior, considerando uma origem duvidosa, que tem nego que acha que os imppostos serao recolhidos direitinho. Se, oficialmente, eles costumam sumir com os imppostos, imaginem assim. ah ah ah []s Girao ----- Original Message ----- From: Luciana Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:44 AM Subject: Sua diversao esta garantida VGVBMWWRQB Aguarde alguns segundos para que este e-mail seja carregado por completo. Voce esta recebendo este informativo por estar cadastrado em nosso site ou em um de nossos parceiros. Veja como e divertido! Jogue bingo on-line e ganhe premios em dinheiro. Jogue simultaneamente com outras pessoas. Nao precisa sair de casa. Premios em dinheiro vivo, depositados na sua conta. Cadastre-se GRATIS! Clique aqui para entrar Para ter seu e-mail removido de nossa lista, responda a este e-mail com o assunto "remover". cod. LGJGEVMKNJCESPVRFBGBHFCHOCYEJCJBHCQWBF -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Se ao menos esses golpistas aprendessem a escrever corretamente (sortiado, se aonde...) talvez mais gente caisse nos golpes. Gelson -----Original Message----- From: Fabio Rodrigues [mailto:fabio_rodrigues at optiglobe.com.br] Sent: sexta-feira, 6 de junho de 2003 12:47 To: Gter (E-mail) Subject: [GTER] FW: Voce j? Pensou... Recebi hoje... N?o arrisquei ainda a baixar o arquivo para ver o que ?... -----Original Message----- From: Voce Ganhou! [mailto:specialfocus at americanas.com] Sent: sexta-feira, 6 de junho de 2003 12:45 To: Fabio Rodrigues Subject: Voce j? Pensou... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarbas at acme-ids.org Fri Jun 6 18:32:36 2003 From: jarbas at acme-ids.org (Jarbas de Freitas Peixoto) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 18:32:36 -0300 Subject: [GTER] F=?ISO-8859-1?B?VzogVm9jZSBq4SBQZQ==?=nsou... - Report In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1054935156.3ee10874a54ac@mail.acmesecurity.org> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ol? a todos! O arquivo focus2.exe ? um arquivo (auto-extract). Dentro do mesmo, h? v?rios outros arquivos. Seguem os checksum: d861b272939654abde4d30e9f6a5e6ae Focus2.exe Conte?do do winrar: c42f902d32751f01b88b078c065f39a0 apps.dat c50013a8d1f0d1e3b0b08ac9ccdb8346 bpk.bin 340fe78130649ece30551d01ec119013 bpk.exe 80a0c6dc98009b47e38b9834b2e4d3a8 bpkhk.dll cb1a4d754c9b3e29bc80b05c34e5ff7c bpkwb.dll c4ca4238a0b923820dcc509a6f75849b kernel 26a7e3330af85796531c16d448cc5e20 kw.dat <== Arquivo com rela??o de nomes de bancos d651772d900104b16b085b445b73d328 mc.dat <== Arquivo com rela??o de nomes de bancos 29be13b2de4e3c07684a3684192de361 rebooting.exe f4f6bf276fc8cd08a8fc2be00e51f4f5 rinst.dat 770e59fef4d8e5efa89b18c86e2ee4d3 rinst.exe Ao executar focus2.exe ? mostrada uma popup de erro, com a seguinte mensagem: "ERRO NA ALOCA??O DE MEM?RIA. IMPOSS?VEL CONTINUAR. CLIQUE EM OK E REINICIE SEU COMPUTADOR." Ao reiniciar o computador e ativar o navegador, ser? enviado um e-mail contendo os jpg referentes aos cliques do mouse (o velho truque do teclado virtual). Neste caso, ? utilizado um produto j? citado na lista: Perfect Keylogger (http://www.blazingtools.com). O mais interessante ? que o autor da "grande ferramenta de auditoria" oferece o ant?doto para a mesma (mas ? pago!). "You like to cyberchat with the opposite sex, and don't want your spouse getting suspicious", use o Personal Anti-Spy! (http://www.blazingtools.com/antispy.html) O estilo desse trojan ? semelhante ao certificado_digital.exe. Para uma an?lise mais detalhada, acesse https://forum.acmesecurity.org/ Em http://www.acmesecurity.org/~jarbas/modelo_email_focus2.jpg est? um jpg mostrando o conteudo do e-mail com as informa??es confidenciais. Caso algu?m precise do e-mail completo do cidad?o, entre em contato (acme at acmesecurity.org) Sem mais, ACME! Team -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 8.0 iQA/AwUBPuEHXHxi97baZwFkEQLttQCdHaDTp1LETUnGaG+nF6jFD3QTrjYAoK3g v2Q/ldWO+RPx2fbeUaJrl5xk =RYj0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------- ACME! Computer Security Research http://www.acmesecurity.org From leonardo.gama at gmx.net Sat Jun 7 10:22:41 2003 From: leonardo.gama at gmx.net (Leonardo...) Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2003 10:22:41 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Looking Glass Embratel Message-ID: <00a301c32cf7$e35fda80$751f1d0a@intranetbr> Ol? Pepessoal. Algu?m sabe se a Embratel possui um looking glass p?blico? Ricardo Maceira, voc? est? a?? []?s -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jarbas at acmesecurity.org Fri Jun 6 17:56:45 2003 From: jarbas at acmesecurity.org (Jarbas de Freitas Peixoto) Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2003 17:56:45 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?_=5BGTER=5D__FW:_Voce_j=E1_Pensou..._-_Report?= References: Message-ID: <002b01c32c6e$23d0ff70$6114a8c0@priss> Promo??o-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Ol? a todos! O arquivo focus2.exe ? um arquivo (auto-extract). Dentro do mesmo, h? v?rios outros arquivos. Seguem os checksum: d861b272939654abde4d30e9f6a5e6ae Focus2.exe Conte?do do winrar: c42f902d32751f01b88b078c065f39a0 apps.dat c50013a8d1f0d1e3b0b08ac9ccdb8346 bpk.bin 340fe78130649ece30551d01ec119013 bpk.exe 80a0c6dc98009b47e38b9834b2e4d3a8 bpkhk.dll cb1a4d754c9b3e29bc80b05c34e5ff7c bpkwb.dll c4ca4238a0b923820dcc509a6f75849b kernel 26a7e3330af85796531c16d448cc5e20 kw.dat <== Arquivo com rela??o de nomes de bancos d651772d900104b16b085b445b73d328 mc.dat <== Arquivo com rela??o de nomes de bancos 29be13b2de4e3c07684a3684192de361 rebooting.exe f4f6bf276fc8cd08a8fc2be00e51f4f5 rinst.dat 770e59fef4d8e5efa89b18c86e2ee4d3 rinst.exe Ao executar focus2.exe ? mostrada uma popup de erro, com a seguinte mensagem: "ERRO NA ALOCA??O DE MEM?RIA. IMPOSS?VEL CONTINUAR. CLIQUE EM OK E REINICIE SEU COMPUTADOR." Ao reiniciar o computador e ativar o navegador, ser? enviado um e-mail contendo os jpg referentes aos cliques do mouse (o velho truque do teclado virtual). Neste caso, ? utilizado um produto j? citado na lista: Perfect Keylogger (http://www.blazingtools.com). O mais interessante ? que o autor da "grande ferramenta de auditoria" oferece o ant?doto para a mesma (mas ? pago!). "You like to cyberchat with the opposite sex, and don't want your spouse getting suspicious", use o Personal Anti-Spy! :) (http://www.blazingtools.com/antispy.html) O estilo desse trojan ? semelhante ao certificado_digital.exe. Para uma an?lise mais detalhada, acesse https://forum.acmesecurity.org/ Segue anexo um jpg mostrando o conteudo do e-mail com as informa??es confidenciais. Caso algu?m precise do e-mail completo do cidad?o, entre em contato (acme at acmesecurity.org) Sem mais, ACME! Team - - - ----- Original Message ----- From: Fabio Rodrigues To: Gter (E-mail) Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: [GTER] FW: Voce j? Pensou... Recebi hoje... N?o arrisquei ainda a baixar o arquivo para ver o que ?... - - - -----Original Message----- From: Voce Ganhou! 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Name: modelo_email_focus2.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 55964 bytes Desc: not available URL: From helvio at ctbctelecom.net.br Mon Jun 9 01:01:22 2003 From: helvio at ctbctelecom.net.br (helvio at ctbctelecom.net.br) Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 01:01:22 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Helvio Pereira de Freitas/CTBC Telecom/BR =?iso-8859-1?q?est=E1_ausente_do_escrit=F3rio=2E?= Message-ID: Estarei ausente do escrit?rio a partir de 06/06/2003 e n?o retornar? at? 18/06/2003. Responderei ? Sua Mensagem Quando Retornar. From giordani at infoguerra.com.br Tue Jun 10 01:05:50 2003 From: giordani at infoguerra.com.br (Giordani Rodrigues) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 01:05:50 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Fw: O Super iG quer facilitar a sua vida Message-ID: <048a01c32f05$951d1940$b209fea9@organizacao> Carteiro iGProvedor iG enviando spam. Esta conta de email que tenho no iG nem ? usada. S? existe porque eu precisei contratar um provedor para acesso ADSL, que no caso foi o Super iG. Detalhe: a op??o para recebimento de ofertas e promo??es est? desmarcada no meu cadastro. Giordani Return-Path: Delivered-To: giordani at superig.com.br Received: (qmail 29307 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2003 00:24:19 -0000 Received: from smtp-1.ig.com.br ([200.226.132.155]) (envelope-sender ) by webmailp-1.ig.com.br (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 7 Jun 2003 00:24:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 23360 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2003 00:24:12 -0000 Received: from batches.ig.com.br (HELO localhost.localdomain) (200.226.133.46) by smtp-1.ig.com.br with SMTP; 7 Jun 2003 00:24:12 -0000 From: Super iG To: Voc?<@superig.com.br> Reply-To: superig at superig.com.br Errors-To: <@superig.com.br> Subject: O Super iG quer facilitar a sua vida MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1;MULTIPART/related Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: Super iG To: Voc? Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:24 PM Subject: O Super iG quer facilitar a sua vida Prezado(a) Assinante. O Super iG est? sempre pensando em trazer novidades e super dicas para voc?. Voc? j? pensou nas vantagens de efetuar o seu pagamento atrav?s de seu cart?o de cr?dito? Efetuando o pagamento de sua mensalidade do Super iG atrav?s de seu cart?o, voc? ganha: - Economia, economize R$2,00 n?o emitindo o boleto - Facilidade, sua mensalidade ? debitada automaticamente no cart?o - Comodidade, um pagamento a menos para se preocupar; N?o perca mais tempo. Altere j? a sua forma de pagamento e facilite sua vida. Ligue para a nossa central de atendimento. Grande S?o Paulo: 3549-2500 Demais regi?es: 0800 880 9999 Atenciosamente, Equipe SuperiG Banda Larga ? Super iG. Voc? pode, a qualquer momento, alterar suas op??es de recebimento de boletins/ e-mails do iG no nosso site de Atendimento. 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Sul MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary= "----=_NextPart_000_0062_1CEF75BC.90851C38" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Message-Id: <20030610110904.3C2D0400841 at mx1.netsite.com.br> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Beleleu] [Fwd: Seguranca - Atualize] Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 08:22:38 -0300 From: Gustavo Mateus Reply-To: beleleu at listas.netsite.com.br To: beleleu at listas.netsite.com.br olha o email que eu recebi -- ======================================================================= || Analista de Seguran?a || ||Solaris Certified System Administrator - Conectiva Linux Specialist|| ||Mondonet Network Solutions - www.mondonet.com.br - (016) 3911-5323 || ======================================================================= -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "secworld" Subject: Seguranca - Atualize Date: Tue, 10 Jun 03 07:32:45 Hora padr?o leste da Am. Sul Size: 5416 URL: From adriano at unesp.br Tue Jun 10 10:03:57 2003 From: adriano at unesp.br (Adriano Mauro Cansian) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:03:57 -0300 Subject: [GTER] [Fwd: Seguranca - Atualize] In-Reply-To: <3EE5CB2E.7020901@michel.eti.br> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030610095757.02605488@localhost> At 09:12 10/6/2003 -0300, Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira wrote: > Um amigo meu recebeu e me encaminhou. Pessoal, por favor, esta lista *n?o* ? o f?rum adequado para este tipo de mensagem. A lista do GTER ? especificamente voltada para discuss?es de engenharia de redes, e administra??o de redes e backbones. O prop?sito do GTER ? o "...planejamento da evolu??o de infra-estrutura e de servi?os Internet no Brasil atrav?s de estudos, recomenda??es e de propostas de padr?es comuns para protocolos e servi?os." Se n?o nos mantivermos dentro do escopo, corre-se o risco da lista se tornar in?til. Agradecemos a observa??o desta recomenda??o. Cordialmente, Adriano Cansian -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 5/6/2003 From adailton at icomnet.com.br Tue Jun 10 10:24:11 2003 From: adailton at icomnet.com.br (Adailton Silva) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 10:24:11 -0300 Subject: [GTER] [Fwd: Seguranca - Atualize] In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030610095757.02605488@localhost> References: <3EE5CB2E.7020901@michel.eti.br> Message-ID: <5.1.1.6.0.20030610102236.01045a80@200.246.9.142> Concordo com essas cosidera??es. Quest?es de Seguran?a devem ser tratadas na(s) lista(s) do GTS. Sds, Adailton At 10:03 10/6/2003 -0300, you wrote: >At 09:12 10/6/2003 -0300, Michel Angelo da Silva Pereira wrote: > >> Um amigo meu recebeu e me encaminhou. > >Pessoal, por favor, esta lista *n?o* ? o f?rum adequado para este tipo de >mensagem. > >A lista do GTER ? especificamente voltada para discuss?es de engenharia de >redes, e administra??o de redes e backbones. > >O prop?sito do GTER ? o "...planejamento da evolu??o de infra-estrutura e >de servi?os Internet no Brasil atrav?s de estudos, recomenda??es e de >propostas de padr?es comuns para protocolos e servi?os." > >Se n?o nos mantivermos dentro do escopo, corre-se o risco da lista se >tornar in?til. > >Agradecemos a observa??o desta recomenda??o. > >Cordialmente, > > Adriano Cansian >-- >GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter -------------- next part -------------- --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.488 / Virus Database: 287 - Release Date: 5/6/2003 From MBORBA at trf3.gov.br Tue Jun 10 18:34:11 2003 From: MBORBA at trf3.gov.br (MARLON BORBA) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:34:11 -0300 Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." Message-ID: http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ From MBORBA at trf3.gov.br Tue Jun 10 18:38:40 2003 From: MBORBA at trf3.gov.br (MARLON BORBA) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:38:40 -0300 Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." Message-ID: desconsiderem a afirma??o sobre a cisco. li a mat?ria de forma errada. mas que processou, processou. []s, m. >>> MBORBA at trf3.gov.br 06/10 6:34 pm >>> http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ From andre at insite.com.br Tue Jun 10 19:09:36 2003 From: andre at insite.com.br (Andre Uratsuka Manoel) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:09:36 -0300 (BRT) Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? From MBORBA at trf3.gov.br Tue Jun 10 19:32:04 2003 From: MBORBA at trf3.gov.br (MARLON BORBA) Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:32:04 -0300 Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." Message-ID: prezado, dessa eu nao sabia; retrato-me entao do equivoco. se e' verdade, e aconteceu mesmo plagio, tem mais e' que processar mesmo. []s, marlon. >>> andre at insite.com.br 06/10 7:09 pm >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ From listas at xtms.com.br Wed Jun 11 13:24:07 2003 From: listas at xtms.com.br (Listas XTMS) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 13:24:07 -0300 Subject: [GTER] regras para spamassassin Message-ID: <20030611132407.76e5bd3e.listas@xtms.com.br> Ol?, lista Tenho o Spamassassin instalado, tendo comprovado que o mesmo ? excelente. Com algumas configura??es mais finas, estamos pegando 80~90% dos spams. Isso foi simples aqui na empresa porque temos um perfil bem definido de tipo de e-mail. Entretanto estou tendo um problema com os e-mails entre empresas do grupo e queria saber se algu?m tem conhecimento de um conjunto de regras para fazer essa classifica??o: se e-mail = *@dominio.com.br entao se IP-ORIGEM = 200.x.x.x entao manda o e-mail senao SPAM! senao se e-mail = *@dominioN.com.br entao se IP-ORIGEM = 200.x.x.x entao manda o e-mail senao SPAM! ... Ou seja... Para que eu aceite um e-mail de um determinado dominio, ele sempre ter? q vir de um IP pr? determinado. Esse IP eu vou determinar manualmente, devido a alguns impecilhos t?cnicos de reverso e coisas do g?nero. Acredito que deve ser poss?vel mexendo nas regexp do user_prefs, mas sou p?ssimo nisso... :-( Creio que mais pessoas devem ter passado ou est?o passando por esse tipo de necessidade com o spamassassin. Ser? que algu?m j? pensou na solu??o? []'s -- Eri Ramos Bastos From sillas at terra.com.br Wed Jun 11 14:00:18 2003 From: sillas at terra.com.br (=?iso-8859-1?Q?sillas?=) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:00:18 -0300 Subject: [GTER] =?iso-8859-1?q?Curso_de_seguran=E7a_em_redes?= Message-ID: Caros, Preciso saber qual o mehor curso de segura?a em redes que existe no Rio de Janeiro. Voc?s podem me ajudar? Grato, Dear friends, I want to know what is the best network secrity course located in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Can you help me? Thanks, Sillas -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcio.wiziack at huawei.com Wed Jun 11 14:04:46 2003 From: marcio.wiziack at huawei.com (Marcio Wiziack) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:04:46 -0300 Subject: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 In-Reply-To: <20030611150004.2175A8A@eng.registro.br> Message-ID: <005e01c3303b$96e61290$1f257e0a@MARCIO> Gostaria de discordar do nosso amigo Andr?, que afirma que quem conhece os equipamentos da Huawei (n?o Hwawey) sabe que copiaram a Cisco descaradamete. Quem conhece a Huawei, reconhecida como uma das 50 maiores em desenvolvimento de software com mais de 22 mil empregados, empresa de maior crescimento em fabrica??o de equipamentos de redes do ?ltimo ano, sabe que h? um grande equ?voco dos profissionais da nossa ?rea. Por incr?vel que pare?a a Huawei ganhou muita for?a por desenvolver um sitema operacional com uma linha de comando semelhante ao da Cisco, em virtude da Cisco estar perdendo muito o mercado e a Huawei entrar no mercado americano, criou-se um processo para evitar o crescimento da Huawei. Mas agora como o mercado tem, ?s vezes, essa vis?o que se confunde com o imperialismo americano, a Huawei decidiu voltar ?s origens (1988) quando desenvolvia um OS diferente, que para os administradores, na sua maioria especializados em Cisco ter?o que ser treinados para sua opera??o. ? bom lembrar que os equipamentos de redes como roteadores e Lan Switch, ? apenas uma das ?reas de telecomunica??es que a Huawei atua, e h? uma linha completa para Transmiss?o, Broadband, Switch (Telefonia)e Softwares de gerenciamento. Ainda sobre o processo, como as not?cias afirmam: Houve uma implementa??o com um diskete de um ex-funcion?rio da Cisco para alguns protocolos que representavam 2% das mais de 15 mil linhas de programa??o do VRP (software da Huawei) que j? foram retiradas e nem chegaram a ser comercializadas. Estou aberto a discuss?es... Abra?os, Marcio Wiziack Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Datacomm Engineer TSD ? Latin America Phone: 55-19-3783-9000 Fax: 55-19-3783-9005 Mobile: 55-19-9113-3070 marcio.wiziack at huawei.com -----Original Message----- From: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] On Behalf Of gter-request at eng.registro.br Sent: quarta-feira, 11 de junho de 2003 12:00 To: gter at eng.registro.br Subject: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 Send GTER mailing list submissions to gter at eng.registro.br To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gter-request at eng.registro.br You can reach the person managing the list at gter-owner at eng.registro.br When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of GTER digest..." Today's Topics: 1. A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) 2. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) 3. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (Andre Uratsuka Manoel) 4. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:34:11 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:38:40 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 desconsiderem a afirma??o sobre a cisco. li a mat?ria de forma errada. mas que processou, processou. []s, m. >>> MBORBA at trf3.gov.br 06/10 6:34 pm >>> http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:09:36 -0300 (BRT) From: Andre Uratsuka Manoel Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:32:04 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 prezado, dessa eu nao sabia; retrato-me entao do equivoco. se e' verdade, e aconteceu mesmo plagio, tem mais e' que processar mesmo. []s, marlon. >>> andre at insite.com.br 06/10 7:09 pm >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ -- GTER digest list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter End of GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 *********************************** From marcio.wiziack at huawei.com Wed Jun 11 14:21:34 2003 From: marcio.wiziack at huawei.com (Marcio Wiziack) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:21:34 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Moda de processar pegou Message-ID: <007101c3303d$ee7d4030$1f257e0a@MARCIO> Gostaria de discordar do nosso amigo Andr?, que afirma que quem conhece os equipamentos da Huawei (n?o Hwawey) sabe que copiaram a Cisco descaradamete. Quem conhece a Huawei, reconhecida como uma das 50 maiores em desenvolvimento de software com mais de 22 mil empregados, empresa de maior crescimento em fabrica??o de equipamentos de redes do ?ltimo ano, sabe que h? um grande equ?voco dos profissionais da nossa ?rea. Por incr?vel que pare?a a Huawei ganhou muita for?a por desenvolver um sitema operacional com uma linha de comando semelhante ao da Cisco, em virtude da Cisco estar perdendo muito o mercado e a Huawei entrar no mercado americano, criou-se um processo para evitar o crescimento da Huawei. Mas agora como o mercado tem, ?s vezes, essa vis?o que se confunde com o imperialismo americano, a Huawei decidiu voltar ?s origens (1988) quando desenvolvia um OS diferente, que para os administradores, na sua maioria especializados em Cisco ter?o que ser treinados para sua opera??o. ? bom lembrar que os equipamentos de redes como roteadores e Lan Switch, ? apenas uma das ?reas de telecomunica??es que a Huawei atua, e h? uma linha completa para Transmiss?o, Broadband, Switch (Telefonia)e Softwares de gerenciamento. Ainda sobre o processo, como as not?cias afirmam: Houve uma implementa??o com um diskete de um ex-funcion?rio da Cisco para alguns protocolos que representavam 2% das mais de 15 mil linhas de programa??o do VRP (software da Huawei) que j? foram retiradas e nem chegaram a ser comercializadas. Estou aberto a discuss?es... Abra?os, Marcio Wiziack Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Datacomm Engineer TSD ? Latin America Phone: 55-19-3783-9000 Fax: 55-19-3783-9005 Mobile: 55-19-9113-3070 marcio.wiziack at huawei.com -----Original Message----- From: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] On Behalf Of gter-request at eng.registro.br Sent: quarta-feira, 11 de junho de 2003 12:00 To: gter at eng.registro.br Subject: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 Send GTER mailing list submissions to gter at eng.registro.br To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gter-request at eng.registro.br You can reach the person managing the list at gter-owner at eng.registro.br When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of GTER digest..." Today's Topics: 1. A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) 2. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) 3. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (Andre Uratsuka Manoel) 4. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:34:11 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:38:40 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 desconsiderem a afirma??o sobre a cisco. li a mat?ria de forma errada. mas que processou, processou. []s, m. >>> MBORBA at trf3.gov.br 06/10 6:34 pm >>> http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:09:36 -0300 (BRT) From: Andre Uratsuka Manoel Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:32:04 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 prezado, dessa eu nao sabia; retrato-me entao do equivoco. se e' verdade, e aconteceu mesmo plagio, tem mais e' que processar mesmo. []s, marlon. >>> andre at insite.com.br 06/10 7:09 pm >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ -- GTER digest list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter End of GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 *********************************** From rubens at email.com Wed Jun 11 14:31:47 2003 From: rubens at email.com (Rubens Kuhl Jr.) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:31:47 -0300 Subject: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 References: <005e01c3303b$96e61290$1f257e0a@MARCIO> Message-ID: <036e01c3303f$55ee0140$1302a8c0@default> Se for pelo crit?rio similaridade de linha de comando e configura??o, alguns equipamentos da Foundry e o free-software Zebra tamb?m seriam c?pias da Cisco... ao que eu saiba a Cisco nunca tentou exercer alguma patente, direito autoral, propriedade intelectual ou trade-secret em cima de equipamentos ou programas que emulassem a sintaxe de linha de comando. A grande disponibilidade de padr?es documentados da IEEE e IETF tornam copiar software de dispositivos de rede uma pr?tica sem sentido do ponto de vista industrial; agora, do ponto de vista do funcion?rio que est? com o cronogramado atrasado... em algum lugar falhou o controle de processo de desenvolvimento e isso aconteceu, e com isso a Huawei deve arcar; o fato do processo da Cisco contra a Huawei alegar muito mais coisas ? padr?o da cultura litigiosa americana, devemos olhar para os m?ritos e n?o para as acusa??es. Rubens ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marcio Wiziack" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:04 PM Subject: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 Gostaria de discordar do nosso amigo Andr?, que afirma que quem conhece os equipamentos da Huawei (n?o Hwawey) sabe que copiaram a Cisco descaradamete. Quem conhece a Huawei, reconhecida como uma das 50 maiores em desenvolvimento de software com mais de 22 mil empregados, empresa de maior crescimento em fabrica??o de equipamentos de redes do ?ltimo ano, sabe que h? um grande equ?voco dos profissionais da nossa ?rea. Por incr?vel que pare?a a Huawei ganhou muita for?a por desenvolver um sitema operacional com uma linha de comando semelhante ao da Cisco, em virtude da Cisco estar perdendo muito o mercado e a Huawei entrar no mercado americano, criou-se um processo para evitar o crescimento da Huawei. Mas agora como o mercado tem, ?s vezes, essa vis?o que se confunde com o imperialismo americano, a Huawei decidiu voltar ?s origens (1988) quando desenvolvia um OS diferente, que para os administradores, na sua maioria especializados em Cisco ter?o que ser treinados para sua opera??o. ? bom lembrar que os equipamentos de redes como roteadores e Lan Switch, ? apenas uma das ?reas de telecomunica??es que a Huawei atua, e h? uma linha completa para Transmiss?o, Broadband, Switch (Telefonia)e Softwares de gerenciamento. Ainda sobre o processo, como as not?cias afirmam: Houve uma implementa??o com um diskete de um ex-funcion?rio da Cisco para alguns protocolos que representavam 2% das mais de 15 mil linhas de programa??o do VRP (software da Huawei) que j? foram retiradas e nem chegaram a ser comercializadas. Estou aberto a discuss?es... Abra?os, Marcio Wiziack Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Datacomm Engineer TSD - Latin America Phone: 55-19-3783-9000 Fax: 55-19-3783-9005 Mobile: 55-19-9113-3070 marcio.wiziack at huawei.com -----Original Message----- From: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] On Behalf Of gter-request at eng.registro.br Sent: quarta-feira, 11 de junho de 2003 12:00 To: gter at eng.registro.br Subject: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 Send GTER mailing list submissions to gter at eng.registro.br To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gter-request at eng.registro.br You can reach the person managing the list at gter-owner at eng.registro.br When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of GTER digest..." Today's Topics: 1. A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) 2. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) 3. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (Andre Uratsuka Manoel) 4. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:34:11 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:38:40 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 desconsiderem a afirma??o sobre a cisco. li a mat?ria de forma errada. mas que processou, processou. []s, m. >>> MBORBA at trf3.gov.br 06/10 6:34 pm >>> http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). []s, M. /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:09:36 -0300 (BRT) From: Andre Uratsuka Manoel Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes Message-ID: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:32:04 -0300 From: "MARLON BORBA" Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." To: , Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 prezado, dessa eu nao sabia; retrato-me entao do equivoco. se e' verdade, e aconteceu mesmo plagio, tem mais e' que processar mesmo. []s, marlon. >>> andre at insite.com.br 06/10 7:09 pm >>> On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente copiaram a cisco, descaradamente. Andr? -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter /* Marlon Borba Divisao de Suporte Tecnico TRF 3a. Regiao (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org ------- "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ ------------------------------ -- GTER digest list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter End of GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 *********************************** -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter From azambuja at lpc.ufrj.br Wed Jun 11 14:35:29 2003 From: azambuja at lpc.ufrj.br (Marcello Azambuja) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2003 14:35:29 -0300 Subject: [Fwd: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13] Message-ID: <3EE76861.80705@lpc.ufrj.br> Infelizmente tenho que concordar com o Andr?. Trabalhei num projeto na Embratel onde tive a oportunidade de testar equipamentos da Cisco, Cyclades, Huawey e Digitel. Os roteadores da Huaway usam um sistema operacional que nada mais ? que um clone do IOS. :) N?o tenho nenhuma simpatia pela Cisco, pelo contr?rio, fico feliz em ver uma empresa n?o-americana disputando no mercado tamb?m, mas justi?a seja feita. At? entendo que seja bem mais vantajoso para a Huawey utilizar a m?o de obra qualificada j? existente, mas a Cisco est? no seu direito. Um abra?o, -- Marcello Azambuja -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 From: Marcio Wiziack Gostaria de discordar do nosso amigo Andr?, que afirma que quem conhece os equipamentos da Huawei (n?o Hwawey) sabe que copiaram a Cisco descaradamete. Quem conhece a Huawei, reconhecida como uma das 50 maiores em desenvolvimento de software com mais de 22 mil empregados, empresa de maior crescimento em fabrica??o de equipamentos de redes do ?ltimo ano, sabe que h? um grande equ?voco dos profissionais da nossa ?rea. Por incr?vel que pare?a a Huawei ganhou muita for?a por desenvolver um sitema operacional com uma linha de comando semelhante ao da Cisco, em virtude da Cisco estar perdendo muito o mercado e a Huawei entrar no mercado americano, criou-se um processo para evitar o crescimento da Huawei. Mas agora como o mercado tem, ?s vezes, essa vis?o que se confunde com o imperialismo americano, a Huawei decidiu voltar ?s origens (1988) quando desenvolvia um OS diferente, que para os administradores, na sua maioria especializados em Cisco ter?o que ser treinados para sua opera??o. ? bom lembrar que os equipamentos de redes como roteadores e Lan Switch, ? apenas uma das ?reas de telecomunica??es que a Huawei atua, e h? uma linha completa para Transmiss?o, Broadband, Switch (Telefonia)e Softwares de gerenciamento. Ainda sobre o processo, como as not?cias afirmam: Houve uma implementa??o com um diskete de um ex-funcion?rio da Cisco para alguns protocolos que representavam 2% das mais de 15 mil linhas de programa??o do VRP (software da Huawei) que j? foram retiradas e nem chegaram a ser comercializadas. Estou aberto a discuss?es... Abra?os, Marcio Wiziack Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Datacomm Engineer TSD - Latin America Phone: 55-19-3783-9000 Fax: 55-19-3783-9005 Mobile: 55-19-9113-3070 marcio.wiziack at huawei.com From nina at cais.rnp.br Thu Jun 12 07:39:56 2003 From: nina at cais.rnp.br (Liliana E. Velasquez Alegre Solha) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 07:39:56 -0300 (BRT) Subject: [GTER] [CAIS-Artigo]: "Effects of Worms on Internet Routing Stability" Message-ID: Pessoal, Um artigo bastante interessante tratando sobre o impacto dos worms no roteamento e infra-estrutura de redes Internet como um todo, foi publicado pela SecurityFocus. Effects of Worms on Internet Routing Stability By Ido Dubrawsky http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1702 Um abraco, Liliana Solha CAIS/RNP ################################################################ # CENTRO DE ATENDIMENTO A INCIDENTES DE SEGURANCA / RNP # # # # cais at cais.rnp.br http://www.cais.rnp.br # # Tel. 019-37873300 Fax. 019-37873301 # # Chave PGP disponivel em: http://www.cais.rnp.br/cais-pgp.key # ################################################################ From henrique.terada at cpm.com.br Thu Jun 12 10:20:09 2003 From: henrique.terada at cpm.com.br (Henrique Issamu Terada) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 10:20:09 -0300 Subject: RES: [GTER] Moda de processar pegou Message-ID: Tenho amigos que trabalham na Cisco, como tamb?m tenho amigos na Huawei , ? evidente que cada um ir? defender seu peixe . Este link fala de um depoimento de um ex-funcionario Huawei . Isto n?o quer dizer que seja verdade , pode ser que seja somente rancor da demiss?o , patriotismo, sei l? mas por outro lado ? depoimento em ju?zo . Em todo caso, segue aqui mais uma informa??o . http://news.zdnet.co.uk/story/0,,s2132056,00.html > _____________________________________ > Henrique Issamu Terada, CCIE # 7460 > IT Support - Open Network > CPM S.A. - Tecnologia criando valor > Tel.: 55 11 4196-0710 > Fax: 55 11 4196-0900 > henrique.terada at cpm.com.br > www.cpm.com.br > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------------------- > Esta mensagem pode conter informa??o confidencial e/ou privilegiada. Se > voc? n?o for o destinat?rio ou a pessoa autorizada a receber esta > mensagem, n?o pode usar, copiar ou divulgar as informa??es nela contidas > ou tomar qualquer a??o baseada nessas informa??es. Se voc? recebeu esta > mensagem por engano, por favor avise imediatamente o remetente, > respondendo o e-mail e em seguida apague-o. 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Thank you for your cooperation. > > > -----Mensagem original----- > De: Marcio Wiziack [SMTP:marcio.wiziack at huawei.com] > Enviada em: quarta-feira, 11 de junho de 2003 14:22 > Para: gter at eng.registro.br > Assunto: [GTER] Moda de processar pegou > > Gostaria de discordar do nosso amigo Andr?, que afirma que quem conhece > os equipamentos da Huawei (n?o Hwawey) sabe que copiaram a Cisco > descaradamete. > Quem conhece a Huawei, reconhecida como uma das 50 maiores em > desenvolvimento de software com mais de 22 mil empregados, empresa de > maior crescimento em fabrica??o de equipamentos de redes do ?ltimo ano, > sabe que h? um grande equ?voco dos profissionais da nossa ?rea. > Por incr?vel que pare?a a Huawei ganhou muita for?a por desenvolver um > sitema operacional com uma linha de comando semelhante ao da Cisco, em > virtude da Cisco estar perdendo muito o mercado e a Huawei entrar no > mercado americano, criou-se um processo para evitar o crescimento da > Huawei. Mas agora como o mercado tem, ?s vezes, essa vis?o que se > confunde com o imperialismo americano, a Huawei decidiu voltar ?s > origens (1988) quando desenvolvia um OS diferente, que para os > administradores, na sua maioria especializados em Cisco ter?o que ser > treinados para sua opera??o. > ? bom lembrar que os equipamentos de redes como roteadores e Lan Switch, > ? apenas uma das ?reas de telecomunica??es que a Huawei atua, e h? uma > linha completa para Transmiss?o, Broadband, Switch (Telefonia)e > Softwares de gerenciamento. > Ainda sobre o processo, como as not?cias afirmam: Houve uma > implementa??o com um diskete de um ex-funcion?rio da Cisco para alguns > protocolos que representavam 2% das mais de 15 mil linhas de programa??o > do VRP (software da Huawei) que j? foram retiradas e nem chegaram a ser > comercializadas. > > Estou aberto a discuss?es... > Abra?os, > > Marcio Wiziack > Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. > Datacomm Engineer > TSD - Latin America > Phone: 55-19-3783-9000 > Fax: 55-19-3783-9005 > Mobile: 55-19-9113-3070 > marcio.wiziack at huawei.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] > On Behalf Of gter-request at eng.registro.br > Sent: quarta-feira, 11 de junho de 2003 12:00 > To: gter at eng.registro.br > Subject: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 > > Send GTER mailing list submissions to > gter at eng.registro.br > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gter-request at eng.registro.br > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gter-owner at eng.registro.br > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GTER digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) > 2. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) > 3. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (Andre Uratsuka Manoel) > 4. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:34:11 -0300 > From: "MARLON BORBA" > Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > []s, > > M. > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:38:40 -0300 > From: "MARLON BORBA" > Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > desconsiderem a afirma??o sobre a cisco. li a mat?ria de forma errada. > mas que processou, processou. > > []s, > > m. > > >>> MBORBA at trf3.gov.br 06/10 6:34 pm >>> > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > []s, > > M. > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:09:36 -0300 (BRT) > From: Andre Uratsuka Manoel > Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes > > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > > > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. > > Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente > copiaram > a cisco, descaradamente. > > Andr? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:32:04 -0300 > From: "MARLON BORBA" > Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: , > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > prezado, > > dessa eu nao sabia; retrato-me entao do equivoco. > se e' verdade, e aconteceu mesmo plagio, tem mais e' que processar > mesmo. > > []s, > > marlon. > > >>> andre at insite.com.br 06/10 7:09 pm >>> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > > > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. > > Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente > copiaram > a cisco, descaradamente. > > Andr? > > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > GTER digest list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > End of GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 > *********************************** > > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003 From andre at insite.com.br Thu Jun 12 13:28:10 2003 From: andre at insite.com.br (Andre Uratsuka Manoel) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:28:10 -0300 (BRT) Subject: [GTER] Moda de processar pegou In-Reply-To: <007101c3303d$ee7d4030$1f257e0a@MARCIO> Message-ID: Quer saber, acho que na verdade, meu e-mail anterior foi mesmo injustificado. Eu poderia ter dito melhor da seguinte forma: a impress?o que d? ? que a Huawei copiou a Cisco. Eu n?o olhei c?digos-fonte, nem olhei detalhadamente os produtos, ent?o a minha afirmativa foi desinformada e, portanto, eu n?o podia ter dito o que disse daquela forma taxativa. Uma vez dito isso, talvez tenha mesmo havido c?pia, e talvez isso n?o seja, moralmente, um problema real, apesar de a estrutura atual do com?rcio e propriedade intelectual tornem um problema. E levando em conta a forma como est?o ficando as leis de direitos intelectuais nos EUA ? muito dif?cil mesmo aqui no Brasil n?s fazermos algumas coisas que seriam ilegais nos EUA por causa de patentes de software. Andre On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Marcio Wiziack wrote: > Gostaria de discordar do nosso amigo Andr?, que afirma que quem conhece > os equipamentos da Huawei (n?o Hwawey) sabe que copiaram a Cisco > descaradamete. > Quem conhece a Huawei, reconhecida como uma das 50 maiores em > desenvolvimento de software com mais de 22 mil empregados, empresa de > maior crescimento em fabrica??o de equipamentos de redes do ?ltimo ano, > sabe que h? um grande equ?voco dos profissionais da nossa ?rea. > Por incr?vel que pare?a a Huawei ganhou muita for?a por desenvolver um > sitema operacional com uma linha de comando semelhante ao da Cisco, em > virtude da Cisco estar perdendo muito o mercado e a Huawei entrar no > mercado americano, criou-se um processo para evitar o crescimento da > Huawei. Mas agora como o mercado tem, ?s vezes, essa vis?o que se > confunde com o imperialismo americano, a Huawei decidiu voltar ?s > origens (1988) quando desenvolvia um OS diferente, que para os > administradores, na sua maioria especializados em Cisco ter?o que ser > treinados para sua opera??o. > ? bom lembrar que os equipamentos de redes como roteadores e Lan Switch, > ? apenas uma das ?reas de telecomunica??es que a Huawei atua, e h? uma > linha completa para Transmiss?o, Broadband, Switch (Telefonia)e > Softwares de gerenciamento. > Ainda sobre o processo, como as not?cias afirmam: Houve uma > implementa??o com um diskete de um ex-funcion?rio da Cisco para alguns > protocolos que representavam 2% das mais de 15 mil linhas de programa??o > do VRP (software da Huawei) que j? foram retiradas e nem chegaram a ser > comercializadas. > > Estou aberto a discuss?es... > Abra?os, > > Marcio Wiziack > Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. > Datacomm Engineer > TSD ? Latin America > Phone: 55-19-3783-9000 > Fax: 55-19-3783-9005 > Mobile: 55-19-9113-3070 > marcio.wiziack at huawei.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br] > On Behalf Of gter-request at eng.registro.br > Sent: quarta-feira, 11 de junho de 2003 12:00 > To: gter at eng.registro.br > Subject: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 > > Send GTER mailing list submissions to > gter at eng.registro.br > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > gter-request at eng.registro.br > > You can reach the person managing the list at > gter-owner at eng.registro.br > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of GTER digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) > 2. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) > 3. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (Andre Uratsuka Manoel) > 4. Re: A moda de processar "pegou." (MARLON BORBA) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:34:11 -0300 > From: "MARLON BORBA" > Subject: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > []s, > > M. > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 18:38:40 -0300 > From: "MARLON BORBA" > Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > desconsiderem a afirma??o sobre a cisco. li a mat?ria de forma errada. > mas que processou, processou. > > []s, > > m. > > >>> MBORBA at trf3.gov.br 06/10 6:34 pm >>> > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > []s, > > M. > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:09:36 -0300 (BRT) > From: Andre Uratsuka Manoel > Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes > > Message-ID: > > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > > > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. > > Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente > copiaram > a cisco, descaradamente. > > Andr? > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2003 19:32:04 -0300 > From: "MARLON BORBA" > Subject: Re: [GTER] A moda de processar "pegou." > To: , > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > prezado, > > dessa eu nao sabia; retrato-me entao do equivoco. > se e' verdade, e aconteceu mesmo plagio, tem mais e' que processar > mesmo. > > []s, > > marlon. > > >>> andre at insite.com.br 06/10 7:09 pm >>> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2003, MARLON BORBA wrote: > > > http://idgnow.terra.com.br/idgnow/business/2003/06/0055 > > > > sintomaticamente, a reportagem insinua que a Cisco anda mal das pernas > > (a mesma situa??o em que, dizem tamb?m, vive a SCO). > > A Cisco anda muito bem... uma das poucas. > > Quem conhece os roteadores Hwawey sabe que eles realmente > copiaram > a cisco, descaradamente. > > Andr? > > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > /* > Marlon Borba > Divisao de Suporte Tecnico > TRF 3a. Regiao > (11) 3311-4683 e 9692-8357 > mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org > ------- > "We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We > believe in rough consensus and a > running code." > --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet > */ > > > ------------------------------ > > -- > GTER digest list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > End of GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 > *********************************** > > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > From heriberto at ctbctelecom.net.br Thu Jun 12 13:47:04 2003 From: heriberto at ctbctelecom.net.br (heriberto at ctbctelecom.net.br) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 13:47:04 -0300 Subject: [Fwd: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13] Message-ID: Vale resaltar que o OS da Huawei faz tudo aquilo, ou quase tudo, que vendido separademante pela Cisco. Heriberto Hugo F. Blanco CTBC Coordena??o Segmento Corporativo - CSC Engenharia de Clientes Tel. +55 34 3256-2867 Cel. +55 34 9977-4392 Fax +55 34 3256-9339 Marcello Azambuja cc: Enviado Por: Assunto: [Fwd: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13] gter-bounces at eng. registro.br 11/06/2003 14:35 Favor responder a Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes Infelizmente tenho que concordar com o Andr?. Trabalhei num projeto na Embratel onde tive a oportunidade de testar equipamentos da Cisco, Cyclades, Huawey e Digitel. Os roteadores da Huaway usam um sistema operacional que nada mais ? que um clone do IOS. :) N?o tenho nenhuma simpatia pela Cisco, pelo contr?rio, fico feliz em ver uma empresa n?o-americana disputando no mercado tamb?m, mas justi?a seja feita. At? entendo que seja bem mais vantajoso para a Huawey utilizar a m?o de obra qualificada j? existente, mas a Cisco est? no seu direito. Um abra?o, -- Marcello Azambuja -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [GTER] RE: GTER Digest, Vol 3, Issue 13 From: Marcio Wiziack Gostaria de discordar do nosso amigo Andr?, que afirma que quem conhece os equipamentos da Huawei (n?o Hwawey) sabe que copiaram a Cisco descaradamete. Quem conhece a Huawei, reconhecida como uma das 50 maiores em desenvolvimento de software com mais de 22 mil empregados, empresa de maior crescimento em fabrica??o de equipamentos de redes do ?ltimo ano, sabe que h? um grande equ?voco dos profissionais da nossa ?rea. Por incr?vel que pare?a a Huawei ganhou muita for?a por desenvolver um sitema operacional com uma linha de comando semelhante ao da Cisco, em virtude da Cisco estar perdendo muito o mercado e a Huawei entrar no mercado americano, criou-se um processo para evitar o crescimento da Huawei. Mas agora como o mercado tem, ?s vezes, essa vis?o que se confunde com o imperialismo americano, a Huawei decidiu voltar ?s origens (1988) quando desenvolvia um OS diferente, que para os administradores, na sua maioria especializados em Cisco ter?o que ser treinados para sua opera??o. ? bom lembrar que os equipamentos de redes como roteadores e Lan Switch, ? apenas uma das ?reas de telecomunica??es que a Huawei atua, e h? uma linha completa para Transmiss?o, Broadband, Switch (Telefonia)e Softwares de gerenciamento. Ainda sobre o processo, como as not?cias afirmam: Houve uma implementa??o com um diskete de um ex-funcion?rio da Cisco para alguns protocolos que representavam 2% das mais de 15 mil linhas de programa??o do VRP (software da Huawei) que j? foram retiradas e nem chegaram a ser comercializadas. Estou aberto a discuss?es... Abra?os, Marcio Wiziack Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. Datacomm Engineer TSD - Latin America Phone: 55-19-3783-9000 Fax: 55-19-3783-9005 Mobile: 55-19-9113-3070 marcio.wiziack at huawei.com -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter From gustavo at molina.com.br Thu Jun 12 18:41:28 2003 From: gustavo at molina.com.br (Gustavo Molina) Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 18:41:28 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Moda de processar pegou In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1612805921.20030612184128@molina.com.br> Hello Andre, Thursday, June 12, 2003, 1:28:26 PM, you wrote: > Eu poderia ter dito melhor da seguinte forma: a impress?o > que d? ? que a Huawei copiou a Cisco. Voc? disse que j? usou roteadores Huawei e Cisco. Cuidado. Daqui a pouco chega a SCO amea?ando processar todos os usu?rios desses routers. --- Gustavo Molina mailto:gustavo at molina.com.br From cesar at acmesecurity.org Fri Jun 13 14:05:45 2003 From: cesar at acmesecurity.org (=?iso-8859-1?q?C=E9sar=20Eduardo=20Atilio?=) Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2003 14:05:45 -0300 Subject: [GTER] New IEEE 802.11g? Standard Extends Data Rate of IEEE 802.11b? WLANs to 54 Mbps from 11 Mbps Message-ID: <200306131405.45429.cesar@acmesecurity.org> POPULAR WIRELESS LOCAL AREA NETWORKS GAIN LARGE BOOST IN SPEED New IEEE 802.11g? Standard Extends Data Rate of IEEE 802.11b? WLANs to 54 Mbps from 11 Mbps " PISCATAWAY, N.J., USA, 12 June 2003 IEEE 802.11b?, the most widely used wireless local area network (WLAN) technology, has gotten a long-awaited increase in speed through a new amendment to the IEEE 802.11 ? standard ratified by the Standards Board of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers. The amendment, IEEE 802.11g?, raises the data rate of IEEE 802.11b networks to 54 Mbps (megabits per second) from 11 Mbps. The added transmission speed gives wireless networks based on IEEE 802.11b (often called Wi-Fi) the ability to serve up to four to five times more users than they now do. It also opens the possibility for using IEEE 802.11 networks in more demanding applications, such as wireless multimedia video transmission and broadcast MPEG. ... " More http://standards.ieee.org/announcements/80211gfinal.html -- Cesar Eduardo Atilio'' Computer Security Researcher http://www.acmesecurity.org/~cesar ACME! http://www.acmesecurity.org/ From senomoto at estadao.com.br Mon Jun 16 18:02:04 2003 From: senomoto at estadao.com.br (Enomoto) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:02:04 -0300 Subject: [GTER] SPAM parlamentar In-Reply-To: <63223.200.211.26.114.1054131774.squirrel@webmail.estadao.com.br> References: <3ED27D8E.7010004@microlink.com.br> <3ED307E6.1000501@microlink.com.br> <20030527060716.A17520@tmp.com.br> <26b001c324bf$b10b3100$1302a8c0@default> <63223.200.211.26.114.1054131774.squirrel@webmail.estadao.com.br> Message-ID: <62565.200.211.26.114.1055797324.squirrel@webmail.estadao.com.br> Parece que essa "moda" pegou com nosso "representantes" recem eleitos. 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Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:55:50 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Listas de SPAM Message-ID: Boa tarde, sei que existem algumas listas onde s?o cadastrados IPs ou dominios de empresas que permitem o envio de SPAM e gostaria se alguem pudesse me ajudar informando qual(is) sites(s) que hospedam tais listas (pelo menos as principais ou as mais consultadas). Grato, Jamil A. Garcia *:11 3489-7746 - *:11 6864-9972 *: From marca at grupogsn.com.br Tue Jun 17 19:32:53 2003 From: marca at grupogsn.com.br (Silmar A. Marca) Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:32:53 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Listas de SPAM In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1055889173.3eef971536b0f@webmail.grupogsn.com.br> Em formado do exim.conf + Listas pra bloqueio: (a rbl.grupogsn.com.br ? de nosso controle... e opcional se vc quiser usar...) dnslists = rbl.grupogsn.com.br/$sender_address_local_part.$sender_address_d omain : rbl.grupogsn.com.br : orbs.dorkslayers.com : relays.ordb.org : bl.spamcop.net : relays.visi.com : spews.relays.osirusoft.com : opm.blitzed.org : sbl.spamhaus.org + Listas para Mensagem Warning: dnslists = orbl.globalmedia.com.br : dev.null.dk : unconfirmed.dsbl.org : list.dsbl.org : multihop.dsbl.org Outra sujestao: filtro exe/bugbeer/yloveyou etc etc... if $message_body matches "(?ixm)\ (?:(?:file)?name(?:[^=])*=|begin(?>\\\\s+)[0-7]{3,4}(?>\\\\s+))\ (\ (?:\"?)\ (?>(?:[^.]*)(?:[.]|2E))+\ (?:ad[ep]|asd|ba[st]|chm|cmd|com|cpl|crt|eml|dll|exe|hlp|hta|in[fs]|isp|jse?|jar|lnk|md[bez]|ms.|ole|ocx|pcd|pif|reg|sc[rt]|sh.|sys|url|vb.?|vxd|ws.)\ (?:[?]?[=]?)(?:\"?)\ )\ (?:\\\\s+)" then logwrite "$tod_log $message_id H=${sender_fullhost} Destinatarios(${recipients_count}): ${recipients} - Remetente: ${sender_address} => Anexo: $1 - Subject: $header_subject " fail text "\n\ - MENSAGEM REJEITADA:\n\ - Esta mensagem foi rejeitada por conter em anexo um arquivo de\n\ - conteudo potencialmente perigoso (Arquivo Anexado).\n\ + Nome : $1 \n\ - Se nao foi sua intencao enviar esta mensagem ou este arquivo,\n\ - recomendamos que procure uma assistencia tecnica, pois este e\n\ - um sintoma comum em caso de contaminacoes por virus.\n\ - Se realmente sua intencao era enviar esta mensagem contendo o\n\ - arquivo em anexo, por favor compacte o mesmo em um formato do\n\ - estilo ZIP/ARJ e o envie novamente.\n" seen finish endif Aceito sujest?es: por favor me enviem se tiverem mais algumas... Cordialmente, Silmar A. Marca GrupoGSN - Desenvolvimento, Implanta??o e Verifica??o em Servidores Profissionais baseados em Linux/Novell ------------------------------------------------------------ Se algo n?o lhe faz mal (fisico, moral ou psicologicamente), experimente! O m?ximo e voc? perder tempo! E tempo, e o que voc? tem a vida toda pra perder..... Mais vale um instante de prazer que uma eternidads]|isp|jse?|jar|lnk|md[bez]|ms.|ole|ocx|pcd|pif|reg|sc[rt]|sh.|sys|url|vb.?|vxd|ws.)\ (?:[?]?[=]?)(?:\"?)\ )\ (?:\\\\s+)" then logwrite "$tod_log $message_id H=${sender_fullhost} Destinatarios(${recipients_count}): ${recipients} - Remetente: ${sender_address} => Anexo: $1 - Subject: $header_subject " fail text "\n\ - MENSAGEM REJEITADA:\n\ - Esta mensagem foi rejeitada por conter em anexo um arquivo de\n\ - conteudo potencialmente perigoso (Arquivo Anexado).\n\ + Nome : $1 \n\ - Se nao foi sua intencao enviar esta mensagem ou este arquivo,\n\ - recomendamos que procure uma assistencia tecnica, pois este e\n\ - um sintoma comum em caso de contaminacoes por virus.\n\ - Se realmente sua intencao era enviar esta mensagem contendo o\n\ - arquivo em anexo, por favor compacte o mesmo em um formato do\n\ - estilo ZIP/ARJ e o envie novamente.\n" seen finish endif Aceito sujest?es: por favor me enviem se tiverem mais algumas... Cordialmente, Silmar A. Marca GrupoGSN - Desenvolvimento, Implanta??o e Verifica??o em Servidores Profissionais baseados em Linux/Novell ------------------------------------------------------------ Se algo n?o lhe faz mal (fisico, moral ou psicologicamente), experimente! O m?ximo e voc? perder tempo! E tempo, e o que voc? tem a vida toda pra perder..... Mais vale um instante de prazer que uma eternidade f?til! ------------------------------------------------------------ Citando Jamil Alves Garcia : > Boa tarde, > sei que existem algumas listas onde s?o cadastrados IPs ou dominios de > empresas que permitem o envio de SPAM e gostaria se alguem pudesse me ajudar > informando qual(is) sites(s) que hospedam tais listas (pelo menos as > principais ou as mais consultadas). > > Grato, > Jamil A. Garcia > *:11 3489-7746 - *:11 6864-9972 > *: > > > -- > GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > From fneves at registro.br Wed Jun 18 18:50:06 2003 From: fneves at registro.br (Frederico A C Neves) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 18:50:06 -0300 Subject: [GTER] [OFF-TOPIC FYI] FAPESP lanca programa para Internet Avancada Message-ID: <20030618215006.GU98065@registro.br> http://www.fapesp.br/materia.php?data[id_materia]=1198 [ref] http://www.tidia.fapesp.br/ From fnery at modulo.com.br Fri Jun 20 19:37:07 2003 From: fnery at modulo.com.br (Fernando Nery) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 19:37:07 -0300 Subject: [GTER] =?iso-8859-1?q?Comunidade_M=F3dulo_para_?= =?iso-8859-1?q?Seguran=E7a_da_Informa=E7=E3o?= Message-ID: <200306202236.h5KMaxYx007988@angel.modulo.com.br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rapenno at yahoo.com Fri Jun 20 20:20:56 2003 From: rapenno at yahoo.com (Reinaldo Penno) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:20:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [GTER] Comunidade_Módulo_para_Segurança_da_Informação In-Reply-To: <200306202236.h5KMaxYx007988@angel.modulo.com.br> Message-ID: <20030620232056.8966.qmail@web40006.mail.yahoo.com> Nao envie propaganda para essa lista. Primeiro e ultimo aviso. -Reinaldo --- Fernando Nery wrote: --------------------------------- M?dulo Security SolutionsA {TEXT-DECORATION: none}A:hover {COLOR: #d19800; TEXT-DECORATION: underline}.link {COLOR: #ffffff; TEXT-DECORATION: none}.texto {font-size: 11px}a.2 {color: #CC9900; text-decoration: none}a.2:hover {color: #996600; text-decoration: none} Gostaria de convidá-lo a fazer parte da ComunidadeMódulo para Segurança da Informação.Criada em 1997, a comunidade é formada hoje por 40mil pessoas em todo o Brasil. Ao fazer parte deste universo de profissionais, vocêpassará a ser membro do portal Modulo.com, e receberágratuitamente o boletim semanal Módulo Security News, commatérias e notícias, além de informativos comdescontos exclusivos em cursos e treinamentos, eventos,produtos e serviços de Segurança da Informação daMódulo e de seus parceiros. Em breve, você receberá uma senha de acesso aoPortal. Caso não tenha interesse em participar, bastadar um reply nesta mensagem preenchendo no camposubject/assunto: remover. Um abraço e agradeço a atençãodispensada. Fernando Nery Central de Atendimento 0800 - 7070853 atendimento at modulo.com.br Caso não queira receber nossoinformativo e mensagens sobre cursos, treinamentos e eventos, dê um reply com o subject: Remover > -- > GTER list > http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com From cribeiro at mail.inet.com.br Fri Jun 20 20:41:12 2003 From: cribeiro at mail.inet.com.br (Carlos Ribeiro) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 20:41:12 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Re: Huawei x Cisco In-Reply-To: <036e01c3303f$55ee0140$1302a8c0@default> References: <005e01c3303b$96e61290$1f257e0a@MARCIO> <036e01c3303f$55ee0140$1302a8c0@default> Message-ID: <200306202041.12213.cribeiro@mail.inet.com.br> On Wednesday 11 June 2003 14:31, Rubens Kuhl Jr. wrote: > Se for pelo crit?rio similaridade de linha de comando e configura??o, > alguns equipamentos da Foundry e o free-software Zebra tamb?m seriam c?pias > da Cisco... ao que eu saiba a Cisco nunca tentou exercer alguma patente, > direito autoral, propriedade intelectual ou trade-secret em cima de > equipamentos ou programas que emulassem a sintaxe de linha de comando. Al? Rubens! O problema no caso Huawei-Cisco ? mais sutil. A Huawei, obviamente. reimplementou o IOS em seus routers. Al?m da linha de comando, ela tamb?m emula todos os protocolos suportados pela Cisco. E a? reside a pegadinha, pois alguns protocolos da Cisco s?o propriet?rios - note bem, n?o apenas 'c?digo fechado', mas propriet?rios e patenteados, no sentido mais restrito. Veja a diferen?a: se a Cisco implementa um protocolo aberto com c?digo fechado (BGP4 ou OSPF, por exemplo), ent?o a Huawei pode descobrir como funciona e implementar igualzinho. O uso de 'reverse-engineering' neste caso ? controverso, mas ? legal em diversos pa?ses, desde que seja feito em 'sala limpa' - sem acesso ao c?digo ou aos 'segredos comerciais' (trade secret) do fabricante original. No caso da Huawei, o que est? pegando ? o EGRP, que ? um protocolo propriet?rio da Cisco; diversos aspectos do protocolo (algoritmos, etc.) foram cobertos com patentes, e a Cisco n?o publicou nem mesmo uma 'implementa??o de refer?ncia'. Al?m disso, a Cisco alega que a Huawei teve acesso a um trecho do c?digo fonte do EGRP, atrav?s de um funcion?rio que saiu da Cisco e foi para trabalhar na Huawei. Neste caso, a Cisco tem todo direito de reclamar. Carlos Ribeiro cribeiro at mail.inet.com.br From fnery at modulo.com.br Fri Jun 20 21:39:36 2003 From: fnery at modulo.com.br (Fernando Nery) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 21:39:36 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?A_T_O___F_A_L_H_O_-_RE:_=5BGTER=5D__Comunidade_M=F3dulo_pa?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?ra_Seguran=E7a_da_Informa=E7=E3o?= In-Reply-To: <200306202236.h5KMaxYx007988@angel.modulo.com.br> Message-ID: M?dulo Security SolutionsCaros amigos, Aproveitei o feriado para encaminhar algumas mensagens de promo??o de nosso portal de seguran?a para pessoas com quem correspondo regulamente, mas acabou que n?o limpei 4 listas entre elas esta do registro.br. Pe?o desculpas pelo inc?modo, fico ? disposi??o. Um abra?o, FNery. -----Original Message----- From: gter-bounces at eng.registro.br [mailto:gter-bounces at eng.registro.br]On Behalf Of Fernando Nery Sent: sexta-feira, 20 de junho de 2003 19:37 To: gter at eng.registro.br Subject: [GTER] Comunidade M?dulo para Seguran?a da Informa??o Gostaria de convid?-lo a fazer parte da Comunidade M?dulo para Seguran?a da Informa??o. Criada em 1997, a comunidade ? formada hoje por 40 mil pessoas em todo o Brasil. Ao fazer parte deste universo de profissionais, voc? passar? a ser membro do portal Modulo.com, e receber? gratuitamente o boletim semanal M?dulo Security News, com mat?rias e not?cias, al?m de informativos com descontos exclusivos em cursos e treinamentos, eventos, produtos e servi?os de Seguran?a da Informa??o da M?dulo e de seus parceiros. Em breve, voc? receber? uma senha de acesso ao Portal. Caso n?o tenha interesse em participar, basta dar um reply nesta mensagem preenchendo no campo subject/assunto: remover. Um abra?o e agrade?o a aten??o dispensada. Fernando Nery Central de Atendimento 0800 - 7070853 atendimento at modulo.com.br Caso n?o queira receber nosso informativo e mensagens sobre cursos, treinamentos e eventos, d? um reply com o subject: Remover -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From security at onda.com.br Wed Jun 25 14:12:24 2003 From: security at onda.com.br (Anderson Nadal) Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2003 14:12:24 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Materia Interessante Message-ID: <3EF9D7F8.3030702@onda.com.br> Ola pessoal. Achei interessante e estou enviando para o grupo. http://news.com.com/2100-1028_3-1020653.html?tag=fd_top []'s Nadal -- +-------------------------------------------------------+ | Anderson Nadal | | nadal at ondacorp.com.br | | RHCE - Red Hat Certified Engineer | | Administrador Unix/Network | | Onda Provedor de Servi?os S/A | | www.onda.com.br - (41) 3025-3000 | | Promovendo seguran?a para seu neg?cio! | +-------------------------------------------------------+ From giordani at infoguerra.com.br Fri Jun 27 02:34:07 2003 From: giordani at infoguerra.com.br (Giordani Rodrigues) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 02:34:07 -0300 Subject: [GTER] =?iso-8859-1?q?Spammers_ga=FAchos?= Message-ID: <098201c33c6d$bba01c00$3a31fea9@organizacao> http://www.infoguerra.com.br/infoguerra.php?newsid=1056686788,8363,/ 27/6/2003 - 1:06 Reda??o InfoGuerra Se voc? recebeu nesta quinta-feira, dia 26 de junho, um spam vendendo listas com mais de 20 milh?es de e-mails, pretensamente enviado pelo site InfoGuerra, n?o se iluda. Tudo n?o passou de um ataque de spammers descontentes e sem escr?pulos ? como costuma ser esta categoria de pessoas. Quem se der ao trabalho de verificar o cabe?alho da mensagem, perceber? que o spam foi enviado a partir do IP 200.180.156.2, pertencente a um cliente de ADSL empresarial da Brasil Telecom (IP fixo). Este mesmo IP pode ser encontrado em in?meras mensagens oferencendo listagens de e-mails, conforme se constata neste exemplo. Pelo n?mero de telefone (51-3741-1481) informado no spam do exemplo acima, o servi?o de aux?lio ? lista da pr?pria Brasil Telecom forneceu os seguintes dados: Assinante: Cristiane de Vargas Anacleto Endere?o: Rua Conde D'eu, 1101 - ap 202 - Centro Ven?ncio Aires - Regi?o Metropolitana de Porto Alegre - Rio Grande do Sul J? o n?mero do ICQ (283519880) presente na mensagem traz como contato o nome "Infosat Marketing". Colocando-se esta express?o no mecanismo de busca Google, chega-se ao endere?o www.infosat.com.br, cujo dom?nio foi criado em 05/09/2001, por interm?dio do ticket 636901. O cadastro foi criado por Cristiano Seibt, que pode ser econtrado na Rua do Acampamento, 1200, na cidade de Santa Maria, tamb?m no Rio Grande do Sul. Veja uma c?pia do documento com os dados cadastrais, aqui. O CNPJ (04.008.800/0001-00) da empresa que registrou o dom?nio aponta para MD Brazil Marketing, segundo dados da Receita Federal. Esta empresa pertence a Eduardo Hart, e est? localizada na Rua Bozano, 606, tamb?m em Santa Maria (veja c?pia do documento). ? interessante notar que os m?todos usados por estes spammers sempre s?o os mais rasteiros, conforme mostra esta mensagem, postada na lista do Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia de Redes, ligada ao Comit? Gestor da Internet no Brasil. Um usu?rio pede ajuda para deixar de receber o insistente lixo eletr?nico enviado pela Infosat: "J? solicitei diversas vezes ao Sr. Cristiano e ? Sra. Cristiane, para que retirassem meus e-mails de sua lista, mas eles n?o tomaram qualquer provid?ncia, apesar de terem me dito que retirariam", reclama. A resposta de Eduardo (supostamente Hart), da Infosat, ? a seguinte: "Vc ter? s?rios problemas com seu site e e-mails caso recebermos (sic) mais um e-mail com este conte?do" ? o que demonstra que, al?m de spammer e truculento, ele n?o sabe conjugar os verbos. Mais reveladora ainda do car?ter dos spammers em quest?o ? a mensagem seguinte, do gerente de seguran?a de redes Hermann Wecke, membro do Movimento Anti-Spam Brasileiro. Referindo-se ? resposta grosseira de Eduardo, Wecke revela: "Eu lembro que h? dois anos ele foi fotografado pela revista Veja segurando uma listagem que ia de um lado ao outro de um campo de futebol, gabando-se de ser o maior vendedor de 'e-mails' do Brasil. Ao ler a reportagem ? e ver que a rep?rter era completamente contra o spam ? ele ligou pra reportagem da revista querendo pegar a mulher". No texto de Veja, Eduardo Hart admite que n?o pede autoriza??o do internauta para inclu?-lo em sua lista, mas n?o acha isso errado. "Concordo que devam existir normas. Quando existirem, eu seguirei. Por enquanto, quem n?o quiser receber mensagens que aprenda a defender seu e-mail", l?-se em um trecho da mat?ria. A reportagem completa, com a foto de Hart segurando sua lista de spam, pode ser vista aqui. Outro site ligado ? MD Brazil ? o divulgueosite.com.br, registrado em nome de outra empresa (CNPJ 89.043.319/0001-08) tamb?m localizada em Santa Maria, conforme se v? por esta c?pia do cadastro da Receita Federal. Na p?gina de contato deste site, encontra-se um n?mero de telefone celular e um n?mero de ICQ (83807068). Na base de dados do ICQ, este n?mero est? reservado para um usu?rio de nome Cristiane, a mesma citada no in?cio desta mat?ria e que, por telefone, identifica-se como secret?ria dos spammers. Dois detalhes chamam a aten??o no ataque sofrido por InfoGuerra. O primeiro ? que milhares de mensagens voltaram sem conseguir chegar ao seu destino. Isto demonstra que as gigantescas listas alardeadas pelos spammers est?o furadas e quem compr?-las estar? jogando dinheiro fora. O segundo detalhe curioso ? que s? uma pessoa escreveu interessada na falsa lista com 20 milh?es de e-mails. Isso significa que quem utiliza este tipo de artif?cio para vender seus produtos tem um retorno p?fio ? al?m de ter o nome da empresa manchado pela pr?tica de spam, muito mal vista pelos internautas. Os ?nicos que talvez tenham algum lucro no com?rcio clandestino de listas de contato s?o indiv?duos como Eduardo Hart e seu bando, que embolsam o dinheiro de pessoas ing?nuas. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From marcelo_savio at optiglobe.com.br Fri Jun 27 14:18:26 2003 From: marcelo_savio at optiglobe.com.br (Marcelo Savio) Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 14:18:26 -0300 Subject: [GTER] ICANN reforming the WHOIS database - Network World Message-ID: NETWORK WORLD NEWSLETTER - 06/26/03 Today's focus: ICANN reforming the WHOIS database By M. E. Kabay In fighting spam and other forms of Internet and e-mail abuse, many defenders of the 'Net have noticed that the worst offenders often include obviously false information in their WHOIS database entries. The WHOIS database records the contact information for each registered domain in the DNS. In my attacks on originators of spam, I've often seen the phone number (nnn) 555-1212 (where nnn is an area code) supplied as the contact point; addresses such as "12345 Street Road" with bogus ZIP codes; real-looking phone numbers that turn out to be nonexistent or disconnected; and countless e-mail addresses that bounce like the walls in a squash court. The Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) regulates the administrative infrastructure of the Internet. In March, the board of directors voted to accept four important recommendations from the Generic Names Supporting Organization Council to maintain the integrity of information in the WHOIS database. Here are the recommendations: "1. Accuracy of WHOIS Data. "A. At least annually, a registrar must present to the Registrant the current WHOIS information, and remind the registrant that provision of false WHOIS information can be grounds for cancellation of their domain name registration. Registrants must review their WHOIS data, and make any corrections. "B. When registrations are deleted on the basis of submission of false contact data or non-response to registrar inquiries, the redemption grace period - once implemented - should be applied. However, the redeemed domain name should be placed in registrar hold status until the registrant has provided updated WHOIS information to the registrar-of-record. "2. Bulk Access to WHOIS Data. "A. Use of bulk access WHOIS data for marketing should not be permitted. The Task Force therefore recommends that the obligations contained in the relevant provisions of the RAA be modified to eliminate the use of bulk access WHOIS data for marketing purposes... "B. Section 3.3.6.5 of the Registrar Accreditation Agreement currently describes an optional clause of registrars' bulk access agreements, which disallows further resale or redistribution of bulk WHOIS data by data users. The use of this clause shall be made mandatory." In addition, the recommendations strongly support development of "a reliable contact point to receive and act upon reports of false WHOIS data." The recommendation continued, "ICANN should encourage registrars to (i) provide training for these contact points in the handling of such reports, and (ii) require re-sellers of registration services to identify and train similar contacts." These measures will help to fight the scourge of spam by shutting down entire domains run by dishonest people. They will also inadvertently shut down perfectly legitimate domains whose owners are too disorganized to keep their information up to date. If you run a business that depends on the existence of your own domain (e.g., for your own Web site or to send and receive important e-mail), you had better put proper measures into place to ensure that a named individual (and a backup person) are explicitly responsible for keeping the WHOIS database correctly updated (and your DNS registration fees paid on time) or you might suffer a self-imposed denial of service. Lastly, as you consider how to comply with these regulations and update your own registration information, keep one other factor in mind: no one has asked you to provide information that would permit easy social engineering. For example, you don't have to provide the exact name of the person(s) who will be the administrative contact and the technical contact; instead, you can give a title (e.g., Hostmaster) and an accurate and working, but generic e-mail address such as . The additional benefit of such a system is that you control where e-mail directed to this address ends up; this flexibility means you don't have to update the WHOIS database every time you reassign responsibility for the domain to another employee. For the same reasons, the phone number can be the switchboard rather than a specific extension, thus allowing you to direct calls to the right person without giving away valuable internal information that might support a criminal hacker's attempts to spoof someone's identity. RELATED EDITORIAL LINKS ICANN http://www.icann.org/ Minutes of Meeting of the Board of Directors of ICANN, March 27 http://www.icann.org/minutes/minutes-27mar03.htm Security appliance adds P-to-P controls Network World, 06/23/03 http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0623tipping.html _______________________________________________________________ To contact: M. E. Kabay NEW! 18-month online Master of Science in Information Assurance offered by Norwich University . 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Write Jeff Caruso, Newsletter Editor, at: mailto:jcaruso at nww.com For advertising information, write Alonna Doucette, V.P. of Online Development, at: mailto:sponsorships at nwfusion.com Copyright Network World, Inc., 2003 ------------------------ From jozeph at globalmedia.com.br Sun Jun 29 18:06:21 2003 From: jozeph at globalmedia.com.br (Jozeph Brasil) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 18:06:21 -0300 (BRT) Subject: [GTER] =?iso-8859-1?q?=28OFF-TOPIC=29_Re=3A_Bruninha_envio?= =?iso-8859-1?q?u_um_cart=E3o_do_Yahoo!_para_voc=EA?= In-Reply-To: <20030629201924.6E9C95BDEC@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br> References: <20030629201924.6E9C95BDEC@jozeph.globalmedia.com.br> Message-ID: Senhores, Pelo visto me parece mais um m?todo para se obter endere?os de e-mails v?lidos, uma vez que o Servi?o de Cart?es do Yahoo! envia um e-mail para o remetente dizendo: "o cart?o enviando para 'fulano de tal' acaba de ser lido"; ou seja, o spammer acaba de conseguir mais um e-mail v?lido para sua lista. Se receberem um cart?o do tipo, nem se de ao trabalho de visitar, voc? s? estar? confirmando o seu e-mail. Foi o que fiz... :/ assim como muitos carentes por ai que n?o podem ver nome de mulher. Al?m do mais tem curiosidade, que nesse caso fala mais alto... :D > Surpresa! Voc? acabou de receber um cart?o do Yahoo!, > enviado por "Bruninha" (bruninha123asd at yahoo.com)! > > Para ver seu cart?o, clique no link abaixo. Ele estar? dispon?vel > pelos pr?ximos 30 dias. > > http://br.view.greetings.yahoo.com/greet/view?E8QFVN3E73TA5 > > Se isso n?o funcionar, v? para http://br.view.greetings.yahoo.com/pickup , > copie e cole este c?digo: > > E8QFVN3E73TA5 > > Divirta-se! From hermann at rodeios.com Sun Jun 29 18:20:19 2003 From: hermann at rodeios.com (Hermann Wecke) Date: 29 Jun 2003 21:20:19 +0000 Subject: [GTER] =?iso-8859-1?q?=28OFF-TOPIC=29_Re=3A_Bruninha_envio?= =?iso-8859-1?q?u_um_cart=E3o_do_Yahoo!_para_voc=EA?= In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Jozeph Brasil wrote: > Pelo visto me parece mais um m?todo para se obter > endere?os de e-mails v?lidos, uma vez que o Servi?o de Cart?es do > Yahoo! envia um e-mail para o remetente dizendo: "o cart?o > enviando para 'fulano de tal' acaba de ser lido"; ou seja, o > spammer acaba de conseguir mais um e-mail v?lido para sua lista. Esse cara ("o" tal de 'Bruninha') ? um velho aplicador de golpes, que vira e mexe volta do submundo para "sugar" os vivos... :-) Durante alguns dias ele "destruiu" o servi?o de encontros do Terra (o Almas G?meas), enviando toneladas de spam aproveitando-se de uma falha na autentica??o ou algo parecido. Depois do Almas G?meas a v?tima foi o Amor at AOL. Tamb?m usou alguma falha de autentica??o para enviar a propaganda do site dele. Agora est? usando o servi?o de cart?es do Yahoo!, que tamb?m ? meio frouxo em mat?ria de autentica??o pelo visto... esse desocupado criou algum script que est? enviando o cart?o constantemente. O objetivo dele n?o ? confirmar o e-mail (spammers n?o est?o preocupados com a validade de seu banco de dados), mesmo pq a caixa postal da suposta "Bruna" deve estar cheia nessas horas com tantos bounces... O reply vai para uma caixa no Yahoo!: bruninha123asd at yahoo.com O site a ser visitado ? o http://orbita.starmedia.com/brunapuc/, hospedado na Starmerda. O ?nico objetivo ? vender o servi?o "AVS" (age verification system) para poder navegar nas supostas "p?ginas da Bruninha da PUC". Resumindo: ? golpe para pegar dinheiro, n?o para confirmar e-mails. Pode ficar sossegado. Sua caixa postal continuar? a receber a mesma quantidade de lixo quanto antigamente... From giordani at infoguerra.com.br Sun Jun 29 21:21:38 2003 From: giordani at infoguerra.com.br (Giordani Rodrigues) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2003 21:21:38 -0300 Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5BGTER=5D__=28OFF-TOPIC=29_Re:_Bruninha_enviou_um_car?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?t=E3o_do_Yahoo!_para_voc=EA?= References: Message-ID: <005601c33e9d$9568b240$3a31fea9@organizacao> Coincidentemente ou n?o, tamb?m est? circulando um falso cart?o virtual do Yahoo, com o mesmo texto do da "Bruninha", mas cujo link leva a um trojan/keylogger, hospedado num provedor gratuito. Abaixo, a mensagem que recebi ontem. H? realmente um cart?o do Yahoo no link aparente, por?m ? apenas um teste. Caso a URL do trojan escondido no link n?o apare?a, o endere?o ? http://www.cartaoyahoo.kit.net/cartao.exe e o arquivo ainda est? dispon?vel para download. >From greetings Sat Jun 28 18:42:27 2003 X-Apparently-To: XXXXXX at yahoo.com.br via 216.136.226.195; 28 Jun 2003 15:03:20 -0700 (PDT) X-YahooFilteredBulk: 200.151.225.206 Return-Path: Received: from 200.151.225.206 (HELO a-po2awv6q5gsvv) (200.151.225.206) by mta153.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; 28 Jun 2003 15:03:16 -0700 (PDT) De: "greetings" Para: "XXXXX" Assunto: Voc? recebeu um Cart?o do Yahoo! Data: Sat, 28 Jun 03 18:42:27 Hora oficial do Brasil MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed;boundary= "----=_NextPart_000_0030_DD314F6.DA22BB1F" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Content-Length: 1094 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Surpresa! Voc? acabou de receber um cart?o do Yahoo!, Para ver seu cart?o, clique no link abaixo. Ele estar? dispon?vel pelos pr?ximos 30 dias. http://br.view.greetings.yahoo.com/greet/view?FRITUNRMBFBB5 Obs: Para melhor visualiza??o click na op??o Abrir FRITUNRMBFBB5 Divirta-se! Equipe do Yahoo! Cart?es ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hermann Wecke" To: "Grupo de Trabalho de Engenharia e Operacao de Redes" Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 6:20 PM Subject: [work] Re: [GTER] (OFF-TOPIC) Re: Bruninha enviou um cart?o do Yahoo! para voc? On Sun, 29 Jun 2003, Jozeph Brasil wrote: > Pelo visto me parece mais um m?todo para se obter > endere?os de e-mails v?lidos, uma vez que o Servi?o de Cart?es do > Yahoo! envia um e-mail para o remetente dizendo: "o cart?o > enviando para 'fulano de tal' acaba de ser lido"; ou seja, o > spammer acaba de conseguir mais um e-mail v?lido para sua lista. Esse cara ("o" tal de 'Bruninha') ? um velho aplicador de golpes, que vira e mexe volta do submundo para "sugar" os vivos... :-) Durante alguns dias ele "destruiu" o servi?o de encontros do Terra (o Almas G?meas), enviando toneladas de spam aproveitando-se de uma falha na autentica??o ou algo parecido. Depois do Almas G?meas a v?tima foi o Amor at AOL. Tamb?m usou alguma falha de autentica??o para enviar a propaganda do site dele. Agora est? usando o servi?o de cart?es do Yahoo!, que tamb?m ? meio frouxo em mat?ria de autentica??o pelo visto... esse desocupado criou algum script que est? enviando o cart?o constantemente. O objetivo dele n?o ? confirmar o e-mail (spammers n?o est?o preocupados com a validade de seu banco de dados), mesmo pq a caixa postal da suposta "Bruna" deve estar cheia nessas horas com tantos bounces... O reply vai para uma caixa no Yahoo!: bruninha123asd at yahoo.com O site a ser visitado ? o http://orbita.starmedia.com/brunapuc/, hospedado na Starmerda. O ?nico objetivo ? vender o servi?o "AVS" (age verification system) para poder navegar nas supostas "p?ginas da Bruninha da PUC". Resumindo: ? golpe para pegar dinheiro, n?o para confirmar e-mails. Pode ficar sossegado. Sua caixa postal continuar? a receber a mesma quantidade de lixo quanto antigamente... -- GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From elp at agestado.com.br Mon Jun 30 18:58:22 2003 From: elp at agestado.com.br (elp at agestado.com.br) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 18:58:22 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Cliente para e-mail Message-ID: Srs(as): Estou montando um projeto para desativar o Lotus Notes aqui na Agencia :-))))). Para fazer isto procuro um cliente de e-mail (free) para rodar em Windows, que tenha os servicos: pop e imap c/ ssl, smtp c/ auth, ldap. Alem do outlook express que ja vem no windows :-(((((, testei o eldora. Este, na nova versao free, nao vem com ldap. Voce conhecem mais algum? []s ELP Eduardo Lucas Pinto elp at agestado.com.br Gerente de Redes/Desenvolvimento Web +55-11-3856-2124 Agencia Estado Ltda http://www.estadao.com.br -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rubens at email.com Mon Jun 30 19:02:04 2003 From: rubens at email.com (Rubens Kuhl Jr.) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:02:04 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Cliente para e-mail References: Message-ID: <05ee01c33f53$3da36620$1302a8c0@default> Se as m?quinas tiverem licen?as de MS Office, voc? pode usar o MS Outlook n?o-express. Rubens ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: [GTER] Cliente para e-mail | Srs(as): | | Estou montando um projeto para desativar o Lotus Notes aqui na | Agencia :-))))). | | Para fazer isto procuro um cliente de e-mail (free) para rodar em | Windows, que tenha os servicos: pop e imap c/ ssl, smtp c/ auth, ldap. | | Alem do outlook express que ja vem no windows :-(((((, testei o | eldora. Este, na nova versao free, nao vem com ldap. | | Voce conhecem mais algum? | | []s ELP | Eduardo Lucas Pinto elp at agestado.com.br | Gerente de Redes/Desenvolvimento Web +55-11-3856-2124 | Agencia Estado Ltda http://www.estadao.com.br | ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- | -- | GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter | From ricardag at agsistemas.com.br Mon Jun 30 19:07:06 2003 From: ricardag at agsistemas.com.br (Ricardo A G Almeida) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:07:06 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Cliente para e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F00B48A.1030305@agsistemas.com.br> Grande Eduardo, Recomendo fortemente o Mozilla 1.4. Atende a todos os seus requisitos. Estou usando aqui em Windows, Mac OS/X e Linux, sem maiores problemas. Abra?os na turma a? da Ag. Estado. elp at agestado.com.br escreveu em 30/6/2003 18:58: > > Srs(as): > > Estou montando um projeto para desativar o Lotus Notes aqui na > Agencia :-))))). > > Para fazer isto procuro um cliente de e-mail (free) para rodar > em Windows, que tenha os servicos: pop e imap c/ ssl, smtp c/ auth, ldap. > > Alem do outlook express que ja vem no windows :-(((((, testei > o eldora. Este, na nova versao free, nao vem com ldap. > > Voce conhecem mais algum? > > []s ELP > Eduardo Lucas Pinto elp at agestado.com.br > Gerente de Redes/Desenvolvimento Web +55-11-3856-2124 > Agencia Estado Ltda > http://www.estadao.com.br > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >-- >GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter > > -- sds, Ricardo A G Almeida AG SISTEMAS ricardag at agsistemas.com.br http://www.agsistemas.com.br -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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We believe in rough consensus and a running code." --Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet */ From guedes at unisul.br Mon Jun 30 19:48:09 2003 From: guedes at unisul.br (Dickson Guedes) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2003 19:48:09 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Cliente para e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200306301948090660.014139FC@unisul.br> Sou usuario do Calypso. ? muito bom, pena que foi descontinuado o desenvolvimento. []s Em 30/06/03 as 19:38 MARLON BORBA escreveu: >considerou o Pegasus Mail tamb?m? > >[]s, > >m. > >>>> elp at agestado.com.br 06/30 6:58 pm >>> >[corta] > Alem do outlook express que ja vem no windows :-(((((, testei o > >eldora. Este, na nova versao free, nao vem com ldap. > > >/* >Marlon Borba >Divisao de Suporte Tecnico >TRF 3a. Regiao >(11) 3012-1683 e 9692-8357 >mborba at trf3.gov.br - marlonborba at acm.org >------- >"We reject kings, presidents, and voting. We >believe in rough consensus and a >running code." >--Dave Clark, pioneiro da Internet >*/ >-- >GTER list http://eng.registro.br/mailman/listinfo/gter ---- Dickson S. Guedes ----------------------------------------------- UNISUL - Universidade do Sul de Santa Catarina Assessoria de Tecnologia da Informa??o - ATI Centro de Opera??es de Redes e Servi?os Internet Fone: (48) 621-3207 / http://gerencia.unisul.br ----------------------------------------------- From rede5 at linkway.com.br Mon Jun 30 23:45:31 2003 From: rede5 at linkway.com.br (Fernando Ulisses dos Santos) Date: 30 Jun 2003 23:45:31 -0300 Subject: [GTER] Cliente para e-mail In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1057027530.11805.6.camel@localhost.localdomain> usa um Webmail, vai reduzir seu TCO :-) pena o requisito Windows, sen?o te recomendaria o Evolution. -- []'s Fernando Ulisses dos Santos Linkway Internet e Telecomunica??es Tecnologia para Competividade On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 18:58, elp at agestado.com.br wrote: > Srs(as): > > Estou montando um projeto para desativar o Lotus Notes aqui na > Agencia :-))))). > > Para fazer isto procuro um cliente de e-mail (free) para rodar > em Windows, que tenha os servicos: pop e imap c/ ssl, smtp c/ auth, > ldap. > > Alem do outlook express que ja vem no windows :-(((((, testei > o eldora. Este, na nova versao free, nao vem com ldap. > > Voce conhecem mais algum? > > []s ELP > Eduardo Lucas Pinto elp at agestado.com.br > Gerente de Redes/Desenvolvimento Web +55-11-3856-2124 > Agencia Estado Ltda > http://www.estadao.com.br -- Essa mensagem foi verificada contra v?rus e conte?do malicioso.